Wyoming suspends wolf hunt

shootbrownelk

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Wyoming lost it's bid for a stay on an "East Coast" Federal Judge's ruling. NO wolf hunt in Wyoming. Contact the Wyoming G&F for a refund on the license you already bought! I guess we all knew this was coming, didn't we?
These Destroyer's....err....Defender's of Wildlife have this leftist Judge in their pockets, and won't quit until Wyoming abandons the "Predator/shoot on sight" zone that was pushed by the Wyoming AG industry. Looks like it will be a nasty & costly court battle...winner to be determined at a later date. How much does this SUCK!
 

Cobbhunts

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That's unbelievable....I really thought they would get it overturned or somehow figure out a way to still have the hunt this year.
 

xtreme

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I can't describe how I feel about this. I have seen first hand what the wolves cause and just cannot understand these selfish people. I still consider the wolf to be a "Shoot on sight Predator".
 

RICMIC

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It has nothing to do with science. It is the PETAphiles continued attack on hunting, which they want outlawed. The more predators, the less game, the fewer hunters, less $ for game departments. The impact on livestock doesn't bother them because we shouldn't be eating meat either. They appeal to emotions; wolves are just like your family pet. The referendom vote on bear hunting in Maine is another example. Hunters are only about 10% of the population, and many of us don't actively support segments that we don't personally participate in. Stand together...even if you don't bow hunt, predator hunt, trap, waterfowl hunt, etc.
 

CrossCreeks

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The judge is basically saying that Wyoming Game & Fish cannot manage wolves and that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife can. This is bull !
I am hopeful that this is just a set back. I am like the rest of you it really makes be sick to see this happen. Too much federal government involvement in state business !

"After two years of hunting, U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled on Sept. 23 that Wyoming’s plan was not legally sufficient to support the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s 2012 rule allowing limited take of gray wolves"
 

kiddwinner

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its a shame that environmentalist and east coast judges feel they can better manage our wildlife than our own fish and game. they wont stop til theres nothing left but predators. Why don't they care about the elk and moose that are disappearing? eventually people are just gonna have to do what they need too without permission. I especially like how the enviros say hunters are out to destroy wildlife when in fact it was us who saved them.
 

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I dont see what is so different about the WY predator Zone then ID having no quota and you can get 6 tags in most areas. I expect they will be after that next......The ones filing in the courts dont care about wolves, they are just making alot of money off of it. The whole country should be a shoot on sight predator zone for them.
 

In God We Trust

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Why am I not surprised? This insanity will go back and forth for the next 20 years. Like some have stated above it is all about suing the govt. so lawyers can make a lot of money. The so call environmental groups are run by rich lawyers and use idiot animal lovers emotions to fuel this fight and line their pockets. We just have to keep fighting the good fight.
 

az.mountain runner

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Looks like the western states need to be like Scotland and succeed from the union so we can keep big brother and special interest groups out of our states Business.
 

lang

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We can actually shoot 5 and trap 5 in idaho so that's 10 a piece per year. I only know of a couple of guys that tag ten a year it gets unreal expensive to get serious about it. Can't imagine much different for a shoot on sight deal other than we pay $10 a tag.
 

Againstthewind

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We can actually shoot 5 and trap 5 in idaho so that's 10 a piece per year. I only know of a couple of guys that tag ten a year it gets unreal expensive to get serious about it. Can't imagine much different for a shoot on sight deal other than we pay $10 a tag.
sssshhhh! Idaho is probably next on the hit list! Just kidding.
 

Wyoming Hart

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This made me sick when I saw this. That's the last thing that needed to happen at the moment. I hope that this decision is only temporary and reversed quickly.
 

RICMIC

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I live in the middle of 3,000+ wolves. Our deer herd is bottomed out after two brutal winters, and the wolves have a serious impact on the recovery. The wolf/prey relationship does eventually reach a balance point, but the reality is that the hunter pays all the bills for both deer and wolf management. Far fewer deer tags will be purchased this year in MN. The antis know this, and their true goal is to stop ALL hunting. We reached our "wolf recovery goal" many years ago, and it took over ten years to get de-listed. The legal challenges continue and are not likely to stop.
 

Againstthewind

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long post, sorry
http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000003210626/wolves-at-the-door.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1409232722000&bicmet=1419773522000

Well at least its getting national attention. I didn't realize congressmen pulled some sneakiness to get them off the endangered species list. But the way they were listed I don't understand why that was necessary.

http://www.fws.gov/idaho/species/delisting copy.pdf

So the nonessential experimental population makes it so that management is more flexible.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-1994-08-16/html/94-19998.htm
"The States and Tribes will define such
unacceptable impacts, how they would be measured, and identify other
possible mitigation in their State or Tribal management plans. These
plans would be approved by the Service through cooperative agreement
before such control could be conducted. Wolves would not be
deliberately killed to address ungulate-wolf conflicts. These
unacceptable impacts would be identified in State and Tribal wolf
management plans and developed in consultation with the Service. If
such control by the States or Tribes were likely to be significant or
beyond the provisions of the experimental rule as determined by the
Service, then they would be specifically incorporated as part of an
amendment to this experimental rule, which would be adopted following
national public comment and review."

I am not a laywer, so maybe someone can explain to me how the court made this ruling without national public comment and review, that I was aware of anyway. The state's plan was accepted as has been mentioned before. Also why is there nothing in the federal register to start the delisting after all the goals have been met for years now. They have done it for 18 other species, why not wolves?
 

shootbrownelk

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Now that we will enjoy a HOUSE and SENATE majority, our Senators Barrasso and Enzi and Congresswoman Lummis will no doubt introduce legislation that will eliminate these "Environmentalist" lawsuits against hunting and controlling predators. Of course our Commander-in-Chief, O'bummer can always veto it. Lets keep our fingers crossed.