What do you think he scores?

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buckbull

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good cutters. I think the guys above are pretty close and your in the 70 range.
 
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Wyohunter

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I'd say in the 72 range, if the cutters were higher it might score close to 80 but I thing the H2, H3 and H4 would all have to be measured above the cutters.
 
ADavid

ADavid

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My personal guess is 76, my buddy said it will be done tomorrow so when i get it ill let everyone know, good to practice judging these little boogers, i shot him in unit 32 which is marginal with no info in mrs section, this year im stepping up to green unit hope to break the 80 mark. whos in for antelope this year?
 
ChadH

ChadH

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I am in at around 69", from these pictures it is hard to tell even what his length is. Great cutters though, the bomb!. And an awesome looking buck.
 
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Fish

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I'd think he go 76-77. Too bad he held the ears back in the photo's, it makes it harder to judge the length. Not much mass above the prongs
 
ChadH

ChadH

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Fish said:
Not much mass above the prongs
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Thats the problem I see, and why I don't see him scoring nearly that high (plus the prongs are low on the horns making the mass score weighted towards the tops, which are light). Mass is pretty much what it takes to score well, and though he looks fairly tall he looks lite. He is a nice buck though. I shot one a lot like that years ago. His hieght was impressive (15+) but he didn't score well because of mass, just under 70". Tall and spndly don't usually equal "big".

It's all just being picky though. It is really hard to tell anything from the pictures provided. No matter what, this is a nice looking buck he should be proud of. He will look great on the wall and noone but a person that has hunted antelope a bunch will even know or care what he scores.
 
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bullbuster

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Interesting horn configuration. As often happens, the strong part (prongs) sometimes robs growth from other areas. It brings up a scoring question that I've had several answers to. When the D3 circumference measurement, (which is supposed to be the midpoint in length) falls on the prong, do you go above the prong with it, or would you go below it, especially if it falls on the lower half of the prong. It can alter the score several inches, depending on the horn. I have such a goat, and it seems like a waste of earned horn mass to have to go above the prong. I also have a measuring kit with a diagram showing a midway D3 measurement around the full prong, which would be a huge advantage. A taxi/official scorer told me that B&C says to go above the prong regardless. Anybody have anything to add to this?
 
ChadH

ChadH

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The official B&C instructions say:

"D‐2‐3‐4. Divide measurement C of longer horn by four. Starting at base, mark both horns at these quarters (even though the other
horn is shorter) and measure circumferences at these marks. If the prong interferes with D-2, move the measurement down to just
below the swelling of the prong. If D-3 falls in the swelling of the prong, move the measurement up to just above the prong."

I am assuming that the D2 measurement on this buck is somewhere on the prong and will be given the advantage of measuring below. If the picture is more decieving (or the longer horn a bit longer than I am guessing) and the D2 measurment falls ABOVE then it just falls above and that is where you have to measure.

Looking at it again, it actually looks kind of close to my eye (looking at the back of the horn) as to where the D2 will fall. If that horn hay hooks in a bunch and there is some length there we can't see well, it may well be that D2 is ABOVE the prong. At least to my eye.
 
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