Weatherby RC "Range Certified"

[cycloneshooter]

Wondering how many out there are using an RC "Range Certified" Weatherby right now and what the accuracy really is?
No doubt they are sub MOA, but are they 1/2 MOA? 3/4 MOA?

I have always wanted a Mark V, and the 7mm Wby and the 257 Wby really intrigue me.
7mms are the kings of long range ballistics and the 257 was the founders favorite.
I am looking for a long range weapon. The new Arroyo catches my eye.

I have the skills to make long range hits, and did so at 600 with a 257 Roberts in 2013.
Looking for something a little bigger.

I would probably get the muzzle brake. How effective is Weatherby's brake?

 

[B&C Blacktails]

I shoot the 257 wby in the sub-moa strictly because it is the flattest shooting gun I could afford. Basically no hold over at 400 yds.

The gun is as accurate as they claim. Mine is a tack driver with close to a 3/4" group most of the time. The guns are probably more accurate than they shoot, Weatherby needs to install a better trigger.

If you can shoot 600 yds with a roberts I see no need to buy a wby round. The wby ammunition is pretty spendy.

My rifle does not have a muzzle brake. The rifle has not much recoil don't see a need for a muzzle brake.

But my gun is a head turner and most people are jealous. I have shot 400+ pound black bears, mature bull elk and deer. You name it.
The 257 wby is ultra flat shooting and big enough to take down most anything. Deer and black bear 100 gr barnes ttsx. Elk 110gr accubond. I have never had an animal go more than a few steps after a single shot.

I am happy I bought the rifle.

There is also the 26 nosler that seems equivalent to the 257 wby but shoots a little heavier rounds.

Oh don't worry about barrel life I've had my 257 for eight years and no adverse effects on accuracy.

Good luck in your future purchase.

 

[buckbull]

I have the "sub-moa" (changed name to Range Certified with release of Vanguard 2) version of the vanguards in both .30-06 and .338wm. Both shoot better than me. I did put the .338 in a vice to fine tune the scope and it shot around 3/4, maybe a little less. I don't reload but use premium ammo. Both guns seem to prefer nosler partitions compared to the barnes tsx.

I'm not sure I would spend the money now on "Range Certified" compared a run of the mill vanguard. Vanguards seem to have the same reputation as Tikka's when accuracy is concerned. I don't think you would have problems making any of the vanguards shoot if you reload and spend the time to find an optimal load. If money is concern I would spend the extra on optics than going the RC route IMO.

 

[buckbull]

The guns are probably more accurate than they shoot, Weatherby needs to install a better trigger.

The Vanguard 1 models are known to have the "not so best" triggers but I have heard the Vanguard 2's triggers are much improved.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

If you can shoot 600 yds with a roberts I see no need to buy a wby round. The wby ammunition is pretty spendy.

I have a Wby MkV in .257 that shoots sub moa. I also have a .25-06 that also shoots sub moa. They are both wonderful rifles. I actually prefer the .25-06. I reload for both and it is cheaper to load for than the Wby. They both shoot well out to 500 yds, which is my self imposed limit. It too wonder why you would want to put away your Roberts for the Wby.

Just sayin........

 

[cycloneshooter]

I don't plan on putting away the Roberts by any means. Its a wonderful rifle and we get along well together.

I have debating about a custom 7mm WSM or 7mm Rem Mag for some time now. Looking for something with better ballistics at distance should the need arise. Hard to deny 7mms are king in that realm. A full out custom and a Mark V custom are not too far off in price. I was just curious if one is really getting 0.5MOA from an 'off the shelf' maker, there wouldn't be a lot of value in going full custom.

 

[Tim McCoy]

Snoop around here. http://hillcountryrifles.com/hcr/ They have some interesting pre-shot options.

In my experience, getting .5 moa from a factory rifle is possible, not always probable. Odds go up if you hand load. The reality is a 1.0 moa rifle is plenty for 600 and beyond, if you can DOPE the wind, if not, a .5 moa rifle is just marginally better. Much past 350-400, it is the wind... http://precisionrifleblog.com/

So my two cents is more rifles are always better, so buy your 7mm. I just chose a 280 Rem for my LR tool of choice, with a custom barrel and action work, she shoots .6-.7 moa at 200, with factory fodder. Will see how accuracy holds to 300-600 very soon.

 

[WY ME]

If accuracy is what your interested in I'd get a Vangaurd 2. They're sub-moa and cheaper than a Mark V. As far as the triggers go I love the trigger on my Vangaurd 2, it's definitely better than my Mark V's. I'm not an accuracy freak or a long range shooter so I can't comment on itty bitty groups but my Vaguard 2 is definitely a good shooter. My personal favorite shoot everything rifle is a 340 WBY Mag. As far as the Wby brakes go I use them when sighting in and remove them when hunting unless I have one of my daughters shooting. They do work great and significantly cut down the recoil. My skinny 16 year old daughter has shot my 340 with absolutely no comments on recoil. Noise is what seems to bother both my girls and the Wby breaks are loud. If you want something quieter get a Vias brake, they are pricey but very nice. I put one on my daughters little 270 and it kicks like a 22.

I like the 60 degree bolt throw, solid locking bolt, looks and quality of a Mark V way more than the Vanguards but the RC's are not cheap. If money were no object it's the one I'd buy and I'd only get it in a Wby caliber.

 

[dan maule]

If accuracy is what your interested in I'd get a Vangaurd 2. They're sub-moa and cheaper than a Mark V. As far as the triggers go I love the trigger on my Vangaurd 2, it's definitely better than my Mark V's. I'm not an accuracy freak or a long range shooter so I can't comment on itty bitty groups but my Vaguard 2 is definitely a good shooter. My personal favorite shoot everything rifle is a 340 WBY Mag. As far as the Wby brakes go I use them when sighting in and remove them when hunting unless I have one of my daughters shooting. They do work great and significantly cut down the recoil. My skinny 16 year old daughter has shot my 340 with absolutely no comments on recoil. Noise is what seems to bother both my girls and the Wby breaks are loud. If you want something quieter get a Vias brake, they are pricey but very nice. I put one on my daughters little 270 and it kicks like a 22.

I like the 60 degree bolt throw, solid locking bolt, looks and quality of a Mark V way more than the Vanguards but the RC's are not cheap. If money were no object it's the one I'd buy and I'd only get it in a Wby caliber.


I had a FFL when Weatherby moved from Japan back to the US. Wholesalers were dumping their Japan made Mark Vs really cheap so I picked up a few of them. All of them are more accurate than I am for the first three shots. My 257 wby absolutely drive tacks and Kills extremely quickly. If you decide on 257 wby you will not be disappointed.

 

[duckbum]

i have accumark in 270wby. it was made before they had the range certified. i can get .75 to .5 size groups with booth factory and reloads.