Type II Block Management / BLM question

[PlainsHunter]

If a piece of BLM land is part of a type II Block Management area and is accessible by a public road, do you need to have permission for the Block Management area in order to hunt the BLM land that falls within the block management area boundary? I understand that you couldn't hunt the private land without BMA permission, but I can't find any clarification on BLM that falls within... Anyone happen to know?


Thanks,

 

[sneakypete]

I would say yes, because the block mgmt property is private, I assume. You could also call the region office for the right answer. I assume again it is in Montana?

 

[PlainsHunter]

I would say yes, because the block mgmt property is private, I assume. You could also call the region office for the right answer. I assume again it is in Montana?

Hello sneakypete, Yes- Montana. I'll call the region office for clarification after they post the 2015 Block Management Area maps. I'm bored and didn't draw any WY antelope tags so I'm looking for BLM land to hunt in MT.

 

[sneakypete]

PlainHunter, what region did you draw?, I probably have last years region 4. You'll be able to have them send you many different property maps along with the region book.

 

[PlainsHunter]

PlainHunter, what region did you draw?, I probably have last years region 4. You'll be able to have them send you many different property maps along with the region book.

Sneakypete,

I have a general Deer tag. I'll check out the block management areas after they post them in August. I'll probably hunt Region 6 or Region 7, not really sure yet. Just not clear on the rules regarding BLM lands within the boundaries of a Type II block management area since you need permission to hunt Type II area and can't just sign in like a type I. Didn't know if the BLM within was governed by the block management rules. Maybe BLM lands that are accessible by a public road aren't included in the block management program, not really sure. Figured I'd ask the question, the Montana forum has been pretty slow anyway...so I'm trying to get it going again. Thanks!

 

[sneakypete]

I'd call either region office and ask the question, at least you'll know the answer, then you can start searching google earth for areas to hunt. Do you have a gps that'll use hunt on x map chip?

 

[PlainsHunter]

Yes- I have a garmin 62 with the on X download from 2013 for MT. I also have about 12 BLM paper maps to study so I've got a decent starting point.

Are you hunting MT this year?

 

[Extractor]

Any BLM land accessible by public road is open to the public as it is your federal land. Probably still need permission for Type 2 block management land though. State land adjoining BLM is also open to the public but has different rules of use in different states.

 

[Hoytfanatic]

Any BLM land accessible by public road is open to the public as it is your federal land. Probably still need permission for Type 2 block management land though. State land adjoining BLM is also open to the public but has different rules of use in different states.

I know for a fact if school trust land is within the boundaries of the block management you still need permission from landowner.

 

[Extractor]

Like I said, different states, different state land rules, i.e., in Wyoming you can camp on BLM but not on state land even though you can hunt on both. And when I said adjoining I meant contiguous along a common border, not corners adjoining, I don't know any states where corner jumping is legal.

 

[Hoytfanatic]

I was agreeing with you extractor!

 

[PlainsHunter]

I know for a fact if school trust land is within the boundaries of the block management you still need permission from landowner.

Agreed on the state land- this is why I was curious about BLM lands that fall within the boundaries.

I've never really looked at the block management program in great detail as I hunted a private ranch in the past so I'm just wanting to make sure I understand what is accessible and what isn't. I also wouldn't want to screw up anyone's hunt so if there were people already on BLM within a BMA then I would stay away.

 

[25contender]

I am pretty sure you will have to have permission.
update the above statement is not accurate. As mentioned it can be tricky. Found this on the MT website.

"In many instances, you will be required to contact a landowner, ranch worker, or FWP employee to obtain written permission. To do so, follow the directions outlined on the BMA maps provided by the region. You may be required to phone for reservations or pick up a permission slip at certain times. If times are not specified, use common sense and phone or stop by during reasonable hours. August 22 (each year) is the first date BMA reservations can be made for those BMA’s which require reservations. Some BMA’s do not start issuing reservations until later dates. See individual BMA rules for more details.

Some BMAs may be 'walk-in areas' or ranches that require you to sign-in at a self-administered roster before entry. Other BMAs may not require written permission, but require the hunter to possess a current BMA map depicting BMA rules."

 

[Extractor]

Agree to Hoytfanatic. Montana's rules are available at : Montana DNRC Guide to Recreational Use of Montana's State Trust Lands.Bring your law degree!!

 

[Big Sky]

I don't think that permission is needed. All of the BMA maps I have looked at had the BLM outside of the border.

 

[PlainsHunter]

I don't think that permission is needed. All of the BMA maps I have looked at had the BLM outside of the border.

Thanks Big Sky- I didn't hunt BMA in the past so I don't have any old maps to look at. I appreciate your input.

 

[NDHunter]

I believe Hoytfanatic is correct. For BLM land though, I believe it is legal to hunt them if you can legally access them. I have a few of the old PDF's saved for a few BM areas and 2 of them say in bold that "The Block Management Area restrictions do not apply to legally accessible Federal lands." I take this to mean that if you can legally access BLM land, you do not need permission. Probably not so for state land though. One more thing, I think it's pretty much always the case that you cannot use the BM to access BLM land that borders outside of the BM.

I'd get clarification on it no matter what for the specific BM area.