Scope question/ help troubleshooting

jerm8352

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Last summer my dad purchased a new buckmaster 2 scope for his 300 wm. We sighted it in just fine. Just before hunting season we took it out again and could not get decent groups. It would be perfect at 100 yds and then all over the place at 200. We got it dialed in at 200 and its all over the place at 100. We sent it in to nikon got it back with little explanation as to what was done but got it dialed in for his deer. However he missed on an elk a few weeks later and we went back to the range and found out he was all over the place again. The rifle and load shot great with his previous scope so we are at a loss and I was wondering if any of you experts had any insight. We are always shooting off a rest at the bench or sticks when hunting and he is a good shot.
 

Tim McCoy

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Sounds like the gun shot fine, till the new scope. I'd put the old scope back on, if that solves it, your Nikon scope is bad. If that does not solve it, see CC's list above.
 

Horsenhike

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Had issues with Nikon scopes. A Monarch and a Prostaff. Enough for me.

The Monarch jumped eight inches left at 25 yards while mounted on a .22 rimfire.
 

JimP

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Are you taking all the shots on one power setting or are you increasing the power for the longer shots and vice versa?

If you are increasing it try just shooting it on one power setting at the different ranges. If you aren't welcome to the list of customers that are having problems with the lower priced Nikon scopes.
 

jerm8352

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They are all handloads that grouped fine before. Unfortunately we no longer have the old
scope to check either. I have a buckmaster 1 on my hunting rifle that slid down a mountain bouncing off a few rocks that never lost zero. We figured the buckmaster 2 would be even better but I am beginning to see otherwise.
 
What Tim said. Put another scope on your dad's rifle. Maybe that scope from your rifle and see what happens. That at least will give you the answer about the questionability of the Nikon 2. If the scope is determined not to be the problem then you can start on all the variables outlined by CC.
 

jerm8352

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I thought a little more too and we have used both factory and handloads without that making a difference. Just checked with my dad and there was no change in magnification.
 

JimP

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I agree on the scope problem. Ammo doesn't get that erratic, it will do some strange things but not as bad as you are saying.
 

JimP

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For a little bit more money than a bargain basement scope you can get a lot better one.

Check out the Vortex line. They have good scopes and a great warranty and I have seen a couple on sale for under $200. Do some searching on the web for all of the scopes that you might be considering and you just might find a better deal. Last fall I got a $800 Leupold for $500 with a $100 rebate. Granted that might not be in the price that you are looking for but it is just a example of what you might be able to find.
 

Tim McCoy

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The Leupold rifleman line may be worth a look too, as long as you don't mind friction style adjustments. I see the 3x9x40 for under $200 at times. They have a good rep for toughness, but are a budget scope in most other respects. Good luck!
 

Horsenhike

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Some great deals out there on Leupold VX3 now that they are transitioning to the new model.

Very much a proven, quality item.
 

jerm8352

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Looking at vortex and leupold in the 150-200 range. I know you get what you pay for but money is tight at the moment.
 

go_deep

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Looking at vortex and leupold in the 150-200 range. I know you get what you pay for but money is tight at the moment.
Checked used scopes on Ebay, specifically lifetime warranted Leupold's. Doesn't matter if it's broke when you get it, ship it to them, they fix it, you get a nice scope.

I bought a 1977 gold ring for $20 that was all busted up one time, sent it in they sent it back looking brand new. Got it mounted on a 7mm today.

Don't know about the Vortex on their warranty if it has to be the original owner or if you could buy a used one and still be covered?
Maybe some else could chime in on that.
 

nvgoosehntr

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Haven't had the issue but my understanding of Vortex warranty is that is good for the current owner not just the original purchaser.

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Tim McCoy

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Looking at vortex and leupold in the 150-200 range. I know you get what you pay for but money is tight at the moment.
Both good scopes. My Vortex scopes have been perfect so far, 2-5 years, but I have much more experience with Leupold's. Over 40 years and about 15 scopes, if in doubt go Leupold. All mine are going strong. My brothers 70's 3x9x40 went bad after 30 years, they just handed us a new one, no questions asked. Watch sales and check often on-line, bargains are out there.