Meat leason learned

Sawfish

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I agree that may have been more of problem than you suspect. I have just never used dry ice that much because like what has been said it will burn the meat in places it's touching !
Very true. Never let dry ice touch the meat, or it will be burned by the intense cold. Newspaper or brown paper grocery bags work well as insulators for this purpose. I have made plywood inserts for most of my ice chests and cut holes in them for ventilation. Size the inserts so they will sit on the ledge in the ice chests designed for the food tray. I place cooled meat on top of block ice in the bottom of the ice chests, and then place 5# of wrapped dry ice on the insert. Meat is good for 2+ days of travel. I have never lost a bit of meat to spoilage using this method.
 

minn elk chaser

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Always makes me wonder when you see on tv shows that they leave a animal over night. A elk has such heavy hide that no way will it cool off without the chest cavity being opened. We had a cow that was shot at 6pm on a high elevation hunt that was not recovered until 7am the next day. It was zero that night and she was sour when we gutted it, had to throw the meat away after taking it to a processing place. Said it was not safe to eat. I would opt to look all night before leaving another one.
 

ivorytip

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I useful tip that I read online if you cannot fully debone the meat right away is to make an incision down the muscle line to the bone. This allows a lot of heat to escape and only takes a minute or two. It helps the meat cool down a lot faster.
that's a great point, I don't like packing fresh meat out on my back in the dark, for obvious reasons. has anyone tried this? effective?
 

mntnguide

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A big heat retainer that many people don't think of, is the esophagus. If you gut and open an elk and leave them overnight...even in decently cool temperatures.. meat around the neck and shoulders will go bad overnight if you don't get that tube out! ! And once that spoils it can continue to taint a lot more of tyne animal. .you won't even notice it for a few days sometimes. ..it's very important to get that out of the neck

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ivorytip

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A big heat retainer that many people don't think of, is the esophagus. If you gut and open an elk and leave them overnight...even in decently cool temperatures.. meat around the neck and shoulders will go bad overnight if you don't get that tube out! ! And once that spoils it can continue to taint a lot more of tyne animal. .you won't even notice it for a few days sometimes. ..it's very important to get that out of the neck

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that right there is info that should come printed on every single elk tag sold. if that esophagus isn't removed asap, you are right, taints everything real fast.
 

SouthForkguy

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I take a small freezer to wyoming and leave it in the pickup, we luckily plug that in at our hotel with an extension cord., this year I threw a couple bags of ice covered with the Buffalo Gazette in the bottom during the day while we were out in the field. We debone in the field and carry back to the truck in game bags. Nearly frozen meat when we get home 15 hours later. Congrats on the DIY success
 

SouthForkguy

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I take a small freezer to wyoming and leave it in the pickup, we luckily plug that in at our hotel with an extension cord., this year I threw a couple bags of ice covered with the Buffalo Gazette in the bottom during the day while we were out in the field. We debone in the field and carry back to the truck in game bags. Nearly frozen meat when we get home 15 hours later. Congrats on the DIY success
 

RICMIC

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You have to go equipped for the possibility of everyone tagging out, a hot day, a long pack out, etc. Murphy's Law prevails. I know it's hard to hold back sometimes, but you do have to think before you pull the trigger and consider the aftermath of your shot. If you shoot an animal early, you do have daylight, but also the heat of the day to contend with. Those late in the day shots (especially in Griz country) create some new problems; darkness, tracking, predators, etc. I packed out five critters this year; two deer were on a high mt. backpack hunt. We boned out the deer, put them in game bags, then in a heavy duty plastic bag, and cooled them down in a creek. When the day cooled, it came out of the plastic, and we hung them in a shaded tree. The first deer was good for three days, the 2nd was packed out the day after it was shot. For a back country elk hunt, unless you have a football team along with you, (or horses), all hunting has to stop once the first animal is down until it is properly dealt with. I look back on some of my early hunts, and now consider it was fortunate that we weren't successful.
For the antelope hunts, it was more civilized. A couple Yeti coolers full of ice, a generator and small freezer. We had the option to refreeze ice jugs if necessary, or use the cooler for the initial cool down. As it turned out, the quarters of the first loper just cooled down overnight before deboning and in the coolers the next AM. The generator was handy to run the big lights for the camp butchering in the dark. (I would NRVER) do this in bear country. The two does were both shot early, we put the quarters in the freezer until cooled, but not frozen, and then into the coolers. After that, we just topped off the ice once in town. 100% meat salvage. Plan for it, and all will be good.
 

Kentucky hunter

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Here's the skinny on my mistakes dont make the same ones. Was in CO for an DIY archery hunt and was lucky enough to shoot a cow on the last night. I didnt make the perfect shot a little back and a little low (56yds far for me and my set up) So i let it go till the am found her with in 150 yds. Quartered her on the spot and got her to the truck and headed for PA. So i stopped in the first town we came to (elk was in the cooler about 1hr) and bought some dry ice and threw them on top of the meat. Thinking the cold air would sink to the bottomand cool everything. Had the hind quarters on the bottom back straps then front shoulders ( order they came out). Then made it to council bluffs iowa the first day checked them and they were froze from the dry ice. made it to pa the next night opened the cooler and it stunk meat on top was still frozen from the ice. Well the meat on the bottom (hind quarters) I dont think ever cooled. they had a smell and were green between the muscles. I am eating it still and havent got sick. But it definatly has soured the taste. So be sure to layer your ice or something to cool all the meat. lesson learned will take 10 min next time to do things different. live and learn!
We debone before we put into cooler then we have gallon milk jugs with frozen ice in them we bust them up an dump the ice an water in on the meat we cked it each day when we pulled out we drained the blood an water off an added more ice an water the elk was in the cooler for 5 days we have 22 hour drive meat was soaked out an ready to work up an put in the freezer
 

tim

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season closed end of day Saturday. 3:00pm on sunday, see a whole elk in the back of a utv with the skin still on, just gutted.
I wonder how that meat will be.
 

lucky guy

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Gr8bawana is correct. If you plan on using the meat from your elk, it must be skinned and cooled before it goes into the ice chest, or you will wind up with a box of sour meat. Snow, cool creek water, air circulation, etc. are all effective cooling methods for elk that have been skinned and quartered. You cannot leave the hide on the meat. Elk hide and hair is so efficient as an insulator, that an elk killed during a snowstorm will not even melt the falling snow.
Here's one old fashioned way. Snow makes things so much easier in a lot of ways!
 

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