Help! Need some quick Wyoming info...

[CoHiCntry]

I was supposed to be applying for an elk tag in Wyoming today but the guy I've been collecting points with decided he wants to wait another year... So now I'm thinking about putting in for a second choice cow tag but haven't looked into it thinking all along I would be applying for a Bull tag.

I looked briefly at the Wyoming web site but not being that familiar with it and in a time crunch (I fly out in the morning on a trip and won't have time to do any research, so I want to apply tonight if possible) I was hoping someone with some Wyoming knowledge could help me out. First... is there anyway I can possibly draw a cow tag as a second choice in units 118, 108, or maybe 41 or 45? Looking at a rifle season not archery. If not, then I'm pretty much done. It looked to me like the answer is no but I wanted to run that by someone with more Wyoming knowledge. If so, then I have a few more questions. Thanks...

 

[go_deep]

Why second? Type 6 and 7 tags don't count against your points. Just apply for it as a first choice.

 

[CoHiCntry]

Why second? Type 6 and 7 tags don't count against your points. Just apply for it as a first choice.

Thanks... what are type 6 & 7 tags? Just different dates? I assumed like in Colorado any first choice you draw takes all your points. Didn't realize it was different in Wyoming. Happen to know the chances of drawing on any of the units I'm looking at?

 

[Manualman]

You do have a chance of drawing the type 4 tag as a second choice. Last year you would have drawn area 108 type 6 if you applied as your first choice and not worried about your points

 

[go_deep]

Jump on the Wyoming game and fish site and click on the hunt planner, select elk, then select each hunt unit and you'll have all the information you want. Type 6 and 7 tags are anterless only, and points don't count against them.

 

[CoHiCntry]

You do have a chance of drawing the type 4 tag as a second choice. Last year you would have drawn area 108 type 6 if you applied as your first choice and not worried about your points

So whats a type 4 tag? Your concurring that if I apply for a type 6 tag (whatever that is?), as a first choice I WON'T lose my points?

 

[WapitiBob]

Type 4 is a full price cow tag. Take a breath and get things straightened out or you might get a tag you don't want.
You need to compare dates and locations for both the type 4 and the type 6/7 tags. They can be different. Odds will also most certainly be different.
If you know you want a type 4 as a 2nd choice put unit 30/31 down as 1st choice then the type 4 as a 2nd choice. The type 6/7 are a different draw so they can be a 1st choice. No points are used and the are a $300 tag vs a $600 tag.

 

[CoHiCntry]

OK, I'm looking at the Wyoming site now... whats the difference between a cow/ calf tag (type 4) and antlerless (type 6)? Seems like the same thing? One says full price and the other says reduced price. What does that mean?

 

[WapitiBob]

$300 difference

Look at random odds for the regular draw and the odds for cow/calf.
Initial glance, 108 is your only high odds type 4 chance. 41 is about 50%

type 6, unit 41 about 100%
45 about 30%
108 100%
118 about 60%

But you'll need to look at the type 6 restrictions, if there are any

41-6, off national forest until Nov, then full unit
45-6 off national forest
108-6 full unit
118-6, only a portion of the unit is open

108 is all checkerboard with an HMA. I hunted Antelope in that HMA and didn't see hide nor hair of an Elk.

 

[CoHiCntry]

Type 4 is a full price cow tag. Take a breath and get things straightened out or you might get a tag you don't want.
You need to compare dates and locations for both the type 4 and the type 6/7 tags. They can be different. Odds will also most certainly be different.
If you know you want a type 4 as a 2nd choice put unit 30/31 down as 1st choice then the type 4 as a 2nd choice. The type 6/7 are a different draw so they can be a 1st choice. No points are used and the are a $300 tag vs a $600 tag.

Thanks for the information... This may not happen tonight ! Lol! I thought maybe I could get it figured out but this system is really confusing. Not quite as cut and dry as Colorado. I don't want a $600 cow tag, I know that for sure! I would spend $300 though. I'll keep looking and see if I can make better sense of it all. Not a huge deal if it doesn't work out. Just thought I could maybe check out an area that I've been considering for a bull hunt to get familiar with the area and see if it's a place I wanted to put in for again.

 

[CoHiCntry]

I want to thank you guys for your quick responses and trying to help me out. Between packing and getting the house ready to leave I've been able to take the information you gave me and look at the Wyoming web sight and I think I've got it figured out for the most part!

Off to bed now so I can wake up at 1:00 am to head to Denver for a 5:20 flight... yuck!

 

[dukeball33]

Historically, Wyoming always had the any elk tag (Type-1) and then the antlerless elk tag (Type-4, now). If you wanted to hunt elk in a special draw unit you needed to draw one of these tags, they are both full price tags. With the population of elk herds increasing across parts of WY, the G&F started issuing reduced price cow/calf licenses (Type-6) in an attempt to reduce populations to a number closer to their target populations. The Type-6 tag will usually have some sort of geographic or calendar-related restriction that are typically in place to target migratory herds. Since numbers are plentiful you can get the reduced price cow/calf tag, but IF the populations get closer to target numbers the Type-6 will most likely go away.