Elk units 86, 92, 94

the wanderer

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I'm in the process of planning an elk hunt for myself and 4 other guys. Our total elk hunting experience is two elk hunts. One went with an outfitter rifle hunting in Colorado, and myself OTC DIY archery in Colorado. So not a lot of experience. I've narrowed my search to units 86, 92, and 94. We have not decided whether we want to go archery or gun. So far as a group we are leaning towards archery hunting. Hunt dates, elk location at various times of the season, grizzlies, and whether we want to possible hunt in snow are all factoring into this decision. We are willing to pack in on foot a couple miles to spike camp and hunt from there, but would be willing to hunt from a camp where we can park a truck. I feel that most likely we will have better success getting a few miles away from the truck, but I'm not sure. Also, all of the other guys would have to buy some gear to be able to spike camp. With this all being said I've got a few questions that maybe you guys can help me with.


1. What's our chances of running into a grizzly in any of these units?
2. It seems as though 92 and 94 get quite a bit of hunting pressure. How true is this? 86 has far fewer hunters according to the Wyoming harvest, hunting pressure, and hunter success data. How true is this?
3. Is this data reliable?
4. 86 has a much lower success rate than 92 and 94. 86 was the original unit that I concentrated on, but the success rates have made me doubt this unit. The non-resident success rate is much higher than the resident. My thoughts were that this was due to non-residents using outfitters to get them in deeper via horses to where the elk are. Is the a correct assumption? 86 does have a Sept 26th gun opener opposed to Oct 15th in 92 and 94. This makes gun hunting more appealing in this unit opposed to archery in any of the three units.
5. Does 86 only hold elk part of the year? I'm just really wondering why the success rate is so low.

since there is no wilderness in any of these units I feel like we can give ourselves a chance at an elk as long as there are elk there through out the hunting season. I should say that none of us are trophy hunters, and really just want a chance at any elk. I've already told the guys if you aren't going to be happy with the trip unless you shoot an elk then you will most likely be disappointed. I've stressed the most important thing is to go an enjoy the whole experience. At the same time do everything we can to be successful. I believe we would all shoot a cow if the oppurtunity presented itself. Of course a bull would be optimal.

Is there anywhere that I can get bull/cow ratios for Wyoming? This would helpful information as well.

Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.

Thank you.
 

RICMIC

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I'm not a local, but have hunted in those areas for deer and elk four times. First off, be sure of the mindset and capabilities of your hunting partners. Especially if you backpack in to start your hunt, then all hunting stops once the first elk is down because it will take all hands to get it packed out. To respond some of your Q?
1. This is listed as a grizz habitat area, but it has a very low population and your chances of meeting a grizz is of little concern to me. Be bear safe (look it up if you decide to go), I solo hunt/camp there and don't lose any sleep over it. That said, I have a guide friend who shot an adult male grizz in full charge at 3 feet in area 92 back in 2007 . I'll be deer hunting in H again in 2020.
2. These are GENERAL tags for both deer and elk, and do have a lot of pressure, especially from the locals. This is Wyoming, and many have horses, so if you hike way back you still may not get away from those who found a trail. Deer season doesn't seem to get as swarmed by the locals as much as the elk season.
3. Data reliability? No comment on this.
4. I hunted with an outfitter in 94 in 2017. In the first two weeks of the season this outfit went 10 for 12 on bulls, and the two who didn't tag out missed their shots or passed on a bull. We didn't see others during the 2nd week, but were told that it was like the county fair during the first week. We rode 24 miles the first day, and I could never cover the area that they do on horses.

**The GEN elk tag for "any elk" will take 3 NR points. You may want to consider applying for a cow tag (type 6). The season starts Oct. 1st, the tag costs less, you don't use any of your points, you avoid a lot of the pressure, and it is still fun hunting. Also, you get a chance to learn something about elk hunting, and the unit before committing all your points on a tag. Good Luck
 

mntnguide

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I think your data on 86 is a bit off... Cliff creek area is loaded with trucks and trailers all summer and fall long. Non stop people. Horses, trucks and 5th wheelers you name it they are plentiful in there. You can get away from people, but you would need to go more than a couple miles
 

the wanderer

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Thank you for the replies. Talking about pressure. If we were to archery hunt I would plan on the first or second week of the archery season. Is the pressure the same during the archery season?
 

ScottR

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Thank you for the replies. Talking about pressure. If we were to archery hunt I would plan on the first or second week of the archery season. Is the pressure the same during the archery season?
You will run into hunters in all of those units, all have elk, all will be a LOT of work to pack out more than one animal.
 

RICMIC

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First week of archery season; heat is your enemy. Take your buds into the knarliest, steepest, buggiest country you can find in Wisc. Then have 250 lbs. of stuff laying around. Wait for an 80 degree day, hike your buds all over through the woods for 6-8 hours, then lead them to the stash and have them pack it all out in one load (make it a least a couple miles to make it realistic.) Once back to the starting point you will still need to figure out how to cool down the meat, and just laying it in a cooler of ice isn't the recipe. That's one elk.
 

ScottR

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First week of archery season; heat is your enemy. Take your buds into the knarliest, steepest, buggiest country you can find in Wisc. Then have 250 lbs. of stuff laying around. Wait for an 80 degree day, hike your buds all over through the woods for 6-8 hours, then lead them to the stash and have them pack it all out in one load (make it a least a couple miles to make it realistic.) Once back to the starting point you will still need to figure out how to cool down the meat, and just laying it in a cooler of ice isn't the recipe. That's one elk.
Yup, that is about right. If you have any hills add that. They never die in flat spots for me..
 

the wanderer

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I realize it won’t be easy, but we will be as prepared as we can. I know there will plenty of learning as we go, but you never learn if you don’t try. Does anyone know of any outfitters that will pack meat out in any of these units? This may sway some of decision making on the spots we decide to hunt. I plan on having a plan A, B, C, and maybe D as far as spots picked out.
 

ScottR

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I realize it won’t be easy, but we will be as prepared as we can. I know there will plenty of learning as we go, but you never learn if you don’t try. Does anyone know of any outfitters that will pack meat out in any of these units? This may sway some of decision making on the spots we decide to hunt. I plan on having a plan A, B, C, and maybe D as far as spots picked out.
WYOGA will be the best resource on that. The biggest challenge in that regard is that they often only have enough for their crew only because of cost. However, there are dudes who pack for a living during the fall so that is worth checking into.
 

Bonecollector

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I realize it won’t be easy, but we will be as prepared as we can. I know there will plenty of learning as we go, but you never learn if you don’t try. Does anyone know of any outfitters that will pack meat out in any of these units? This may sway some of decision making on the spots we decide to hunt. I plan on having a plan A, B, C, and maybe D as far as spots picked out.
I like your determination & attitude. Looking forward to hearing about your trip. Good luck!