Making up some loads for a Ruger MKll Ultralight in .270 using 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips. Have tried Alliant Reloder 22 and IMR4831 so far, though only loads near the top end of the spectrum. Neither powder showed very good accuracy in the ammounts I used them. Will be trying some IMR or H4350 next. That appears in numerous publications as the one for accuracy for a 140 grain bullet in the .270. Anyone have any pet loads they would like to share with me? using CCI 200 primers
.270 Handloads
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Kentucky hunter
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I've never loaded .270 but for the loads I have workered up seem to get the best accuracy with a hot load up to max sometimes only changing the charge by half a grain sometimes 10ths of a grain to get one cutting bullet holes an have done well with case length that still fit in the mag
Colorado Cowboy
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No matter what caliber, I usually start at the middle of the suggested powder charge and then load 3. I increase the charge by 1/2 grain until I reach the max listed. I then shoot 3 shot groups going from the lowest loaded to the highest. I also give the barrel plenty of time to cool down between groups.
You are using one of the heaviest bullet weights, so I would tend to stay with slower burning powder. I like the Reloader powders and they have performed well for me. Try the RE 20 & 17. Good luck and keep us posted on how you are doing.
You are using one of the heaviest bullet weights, so I would tend to stay with slower burning powder. I like the Reloader powders and they have performed well for me. Try the RE 20 & 17. Good luck and keep us posted on how you are doing.
nvarcher
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I have been trying out different stuff for my .270 for my deer hunt coming up. I think I've decided on 58.6 gns RL-22 with a 130 grain Hornady SST! Tried the IMR 4350, I liked it, I just ran out of it. Also heard its extremely temp sensitive.
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Both my 270's like 58gr of H4831 under a 140gr accubond. It is a max load by my book, so work up to it.
The Ruger American with a 22" barrel gets 2925fps from the load and the average of three 3 shot groups testing it was .625"
The custom gun with a 24" barrel gets 2950fps from the load. I've shot 4 groups with it so far, cleaning between them, and has made 3 ragged hole groups. The other was about 1.5" but I think it was due to me and the wind that day, it was wicked.
I use Winchester Lg rifle primers.
The Ruger American with a 22" barrel gets 2925fps from the load and the average of three 3 shot groups testing it was .625"
The custom gun with a 24" barrel gets 2950fps from the load. I've shot 4 groups with it so far, cleaning between them, and has made 3 ragged hole groups. The other was about 1.5" but I think it was due to me and the wind that day, it was wicked.
I use Winchester Lg rifle primers.
ljmelea
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pet load 270
I've had this load since 1965,h4831 59.5 grains 130 nosler partion or the accubond,cci 200 primer,winchester cases in my pre 64, rem in my mod 700. The most important thing you need to do is find the sweetspot with seating depth of bullet.Once there never change that spot.As far as ballistic tips go, i think they are a poor choice for your .270.Just my thoughts,good luck,Larry
Colorado Cowboy
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I used Ballistic Tips in my .257 Wby and they really blew up and destroyed a lot of meat. Somewhere in this section on an earlier post are some pictures of the antelope.
Catahoula12
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Bigsky, I hunt elk/deer in Az with a Savage 111 in .270... Best load I have had for accuracy, velocity and the end result taking 3 elk and 2 deer thus far has been in Hornady brass, Nosler Accubond 140g, 49g of H4350 with Federal primers. I know that every gun likes what it likes but experiment, its always fun to try different loads til you find one that satisfies you liking...
I use a lot of IMR4350. I haven't really found it to be too temperature sensitive and I've killed deer using it while it was hovering around zero degrees. Then again I wasn't bench shooting either so I don't know how much of a difference it actually made but those bucks certainly were dead.
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BobT
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I use IMR4350 in my .270 with all bullet weights, I use the data straight out of the Nosler manual. I have never used a lot of CCI primers, they were usually in short supply so most of my data involves Winchester WLR primers. I'm curious about why Larry thinks the Ballistic Tips are a poor choice, I have used them with great success for many years on whitetails and pronghorns in both 130 grain and 140 grain.
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kiddwinner
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I actually just did some reloads for my 270 with cci 200 primers and 130 nosler ballistic tips, i used H380 and it shoots pretty well...
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Sawfish
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The original ballistic tip bullets were somewhat light in construction, and many times would explode on contact. This usually caused a ghastly wound and on occasion, a lost animal. I was shooting 140 gr. Ballistic Tips out of a Ruger International 7 x 57 while hunting Blackbuck antelope in Texas some years ago. I had a 187 yard facing shot at a nice buck, and shot him in the brisket. The bullet exploded in a red spray. We did recover the buck, and found that one shard of the bullet jacket had somehow severed the aorta. IMHO, that was bad bullet performance and pure luck.
Nosler changed the construction if the Ballistic Tips a few years back, and it seems that the bullets continue to evolve. Not too long ago, Nosler offered a "Solid Base" bullet, which was well received by shooters, until it inexplicably disappeared from the market. I have some .25 caliber current production 115 gr. BT bullets, and the copy on the box reads "Solid Base Ballistic Tip Bullets". I have had no problem with these on game. Same story with the 150 gr. BT out of a 15" Encore in 30/06.
I have had very good with RL-25 in my 25/06, and it might be worth a try in the .270.
I saw the same thing from BT's in my 270 years ago. I was shooting the 140's and lost a buck I thought should have been a chip shot. The next thing I shot with the same bullets was a coyote, the bullet didn't exit on a broadside 150yd shot. I haven't used them on big game since the accubond came out, but do use them for varmint/practice loads. Many of the accubond and ballistic tips in the same caliber/weight share the same BC and shoot the same. I've shot quite a few coyotes with the 270 130gr and 7mm 140gr ballistic tip at some tough angles and the newer ones seem much tougher. They would probably be a fine deer bullet, but I'm sticking with the accubond. If it isn't broke don't fix it.
Just a side note, the 140gr 270 isn't a place where the ballistic tip and accubond have the same ballistic coefficient. Nosler used a heavier jacket on the accubond which resulted in a longer, higher BC bullet at the same weight.
Just a side note, the 140gr 270 isn't a place where the ballistic tip and accubond have the same ballistic coefficient. Nosler used a heavier jacket on the accubond which resulted in a longer, higher BC bullet at the same weight.
BobT
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Wow, I never realized the BT had caused so much grief ! The only one I had a problem with was the 200 grain .338. My buddy borrowed my .338/06 to deer hunt with and shot a medium sized whitetail buck at about 170 yards. The hit was just inside the shoulder on severely quartering shot and the core was recovered under the hide on the opposite ham, the jacket stayed inside the rib cage. I called Nosler and complained. Other than that I have killed probably 15 deer and a pronghorn with the .270 bullets and had no problems. About 10 years ago I switched to the 150 grain Partition for my .270 deer hunting load, I still shoot a lot of ballistic tips in other calibers, just got some 125 grain .30 caliber BT's in the mail yesterday for my .30/30AI pistol
Colorado Cowboy
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I checked this part of the Forum (Guns, Muzzleloaders & Ammo) amd found the post I did earlier this year on Ballistic Tips in my 25-06 and .257 Wby. I have a picture posted almost at the end of the thread of a doe antelope with a shoulder that was destroyed. I am going to checkout the box and see what the descriprion says. I normally use Sierra .117 gr BTs in my .25s and thats what I will keep using for deer & antelope.
Those 117gr Sierra gamekings are a great bullet. I load 110gr accubonds for a neighbor's 257 Weatherby. He had great luck with the Sierras in his 25-06 but we didn't know if they were quite tough enough for the Weatherby so we went accubond when developing loads. Sounds like we would have been fine staying with the Sierra from your results. The accubonds are working great though, his load chronographs at 3450fps from his long barrel and is staying under 3/4". The performance on deer at various ranges has been exactly what I've come to expect from and accubond, small entrance, moderate exit, and internal destruction. Haven't seen a shoulder hit yet only lung shots.
Still reading everyone's posts as I haven't checked this for week. Thanks everyone. I have some H4831, IMR4831, Reloder-22 and IMR4350, all ready to test with the .270. I had read the same things about earlier designed Ballistic tips being far to frangible but was reassured but friends using them now they are fine. I also wanted to use them as I thought they had the same B.C. as the Accubonds of the same weight...
Unless Nosler changed something or my memory is off I think the BT has a .456 BC and the AB has a .496 BC due to the thicker jacket making the bullet longer. I don't have my book right here to check it but I think that is still accurate.