Wyoming is burning up!!

[Colorado Cowboy]

Ditto I wish we could adopt a policy that if you werent born in wyoming you should leave and never come back. (maybe a little extreme) Bwahahaha

Just a bit! If everyone who was not born there had to leave, I'll bet at least 25% (or more) of the residents whould have to leave. Who would pay the taxes? Surely the remaining residents would not be happy to see that!

 

[birdhunter]

Oh I think Wyoming residents would be just fine if people left. It is one of the top (if not the top) money making state in the US. Twenty years ago we had about 30% less people and were doing fine. Our coal, oil, and gas keep us afloat. No state taxes here either. Best damn state to live in (imo).

 

[Muleys 24/7]

Ditto I wish we could adopt a policy that if you werent born in wyoming you should leave and never come back. (maybe a little extreme) Bwahahaha

Haha, If we had that policy in CA I bet more than half the state would be leaving! For some reason everyone wants to come to califorina (it must be for the hot chicks and weather) not the high taxes, hunting and gun rights!

 

[PLP]

I was a wildland firefighter for the last 5 1/2 years.Until 2 months ago when I moved out west.We did control burns on a military base,and fire suppression.Fire is GREAT for wildlife..when it is controlled..If you burn during nesting times it is not that good IMO,but other than that it is great.The turkeys would run INTO the smoke as soon as the flames went down..to have their way with the exposed bugs(some already cooked for them..lol)..The animals have ways to survive fires.Sometimes they will simply huddle up in a pond.They will use the areas as soon as the fire is gone..and it will increase after 2 weeks or so goes by.When the new growth starts.Indians used to use fire to control the land,and old time farmers would burn off things to provide good groceries for the cows..etc.

Alot of people dont understand the importance of fire..Just like stated above in cali..when undergrowth isnt controlled you let the forest choke out sunlight and that cuts back on the groceries..its great for bedding,but not great for food..And when a fire DOES hit..it is disaster,and can ruin the forest.Alot of people dont know the buffalo moved to areas after fire..Fire has a purpose,and humans have impacted the way nature works in several different ways..Fire suppression on land being one..Im not saying let nature burn and destroy houses..I am saying a prescribed fire plan is in order..

I do hate that all of the wildfires are breaking out,and I hope that people houses are saved,and animals are kept safe as well.Most wild animals will be just fine tho,and they will be benefitting soon!

I have not been to the Mountains of colorado,but I am sure the elk will be back..they are probably back now enjoying new growth.

 

[HuntWYODon]

Oh I think Wyoming residents would be just fine if people left. It is one of the top (if not the top) money making state in the US. Twenty years ago we had about 30% less people and were doing fine. Our coal, oil, and gas keep us afloat. No state taxes here either. Best damn state to live in (imo).

Muleys 24/7
A lot of people are getting out of this f'ed up state because of high taxes,restriction,etc. on everything. Now we have the idiot moonchild Jerry Brown back for Gov.. What's that tell you about the majority of people who live here ? I'm not far behind. If housing ever comes back up, I'm outa here. I'll park a trailer on my 40 acres in Wy. until I get a cabin built and feel sorry for everybody back in Ca. Not.

 

[HuntWYODon]

Be thankful you dont live in communist Kalifornia, where fire supression has killed the forest. We have very few decent summer, winter ranges that can actually hold animals. Most of our forest is so choked with old underbrush and thick canopies, that when a fire does eventually start, it can/and will grow to epic proportions. Those fires, with all of the fuel, kill everything from the humans that fight them, to the dirt that they grow in. As long as no homes are burned and nobody gets hurt, it will be a boon to hunt in future years. Ive watched our deer populations buckle in the last 50 years, because of fire supression.

Roger that BossBrott !

 

[HuntWYODon]

Ditto I wish we could adopt a policy that if you werent born in wyoming you should leave and never come back. (maybe a little extreme) Bwahahaha

Seriously...
Half the state would be gone.

 

[WYrider]

Hmm, willing to bet that if everyone not born in WY has to leave there will only be a few Indians left. Your parents, grandparents, etc, came here at some point so you are not native either. Just saying....

 

[kcaves]

If u were born in Wyoming then you are a native of Wyoming.

 

[Elkoholic307]

<----- Native!

 

[HuntWYODon]

<----- Native!

LOL ! I have a bumper sticker that says Wyoming Native that looks like a license plate. In real small writing above it it says
"Almost a" Had it on there for about 4 yrs. Had the buckin bronco sticker on my back window's for 30 yrs. . I may have not been born there but I have spent a lot of time there in the last 30 yrs.and Wy. has a big part of my heart, so much that I bought 40 acres there in 1996. And I do pay taxes on it. If anybody doesn't like non residents there , I really don't give a sht. Non Resident's millions of $ keeps your Game and Fish Dept. running and your economy depends on them.

 

[Powerman777]

Rider, I have to agree with you on that one. It is the same here in North Dakota where the oil boom is stinking huge there are people here from every state in the US. It is amazing how much this state has changed in the past three years!!!

 

[Wyohunter]

LOL ! I have a bumper sticker that says Wyoming Native that looks like a license plate. In real small writing above it it says
"Almost a" Had it on there for about 4 yrs. Had the buckin bronco sticker on my back window's for 30 yrs. . I may have not been born there but I have spent a lot of time there in the last 30 yrs.and Wy. has a big part of my heart, so much that I bought 40 acres there in 1996. And I do pay taxes on it. If anybody doesn't like non residents there , I really don't give a sht. Non Resident's millions of $ keeps your Game and Fish Dept. running and your economy depends on them.

Huntwyodon I don't think the majority of the residents mind the nonresidents being here. I personally enjoy seeing them and try to talk to every nonresident hunter I encounter, a lot of the don't get to hunt the big game animals every year like the residents do. I think when we say get rid of the non native people they are talking about the Jackson and pinedale areas where rich people come in and develope every mountain side they see and then try to change the local governments to their liking. When you say that the only way that the wg&f stays afloat I think that is the most ignorant and stupid statement I have ever heard and I think it has left most people questioning what little intelligence you may have. The fact is Wyoming is one of only two states that has a surplus of money they are nowhere close to being in debt like most of the other states. Coal natural gas and oil keep this state rich alone but when you throw in agriculture and tourism that is pretty much icing on the cake. So don't think that the fraction of a percent of revenue generated by the out of state tags really matters because I just about bet that the game and fish in Wyoming can pretty much wipe their ass with what few dollars that is actually generated by out of state tags.

 

[justinthedoc]

And I do pay taxes on it. If anybody doesn't like non residents there , I really don't give a sht. Non Resident's millions of $ keeps your Game and Fish Dept. running and your economy depends on them.[/QUOTE]

First off I love NR hunters, just want them to go home when there done. Just my opinion no one elses.
And by the way no economy in WY (sure it helps) depends on hunters. FYI

Actually the energy output of this state keeps the G&F, and the state, and the meth heads going. If it wasnt for the energy I bet you wouldnt be here either. The money u NR pay goes into the G&F pockets, and to be quit frank I dnt give a sht about the G&F they have already screwd this state on mulies, moose, well now that I think of it the only thing really doing good in this state as far as numbers go is Elk. As far as the real natives; guess you dont bring a knife to a gun fight.

 

[HuntWYODon]

Huntwyodon I don't think the majority of the residents mind the nonresidents being here. I personally enjoy seeing them and try to talk to every nonresident hunter I encounter, a lot of the don't get to hunt the big game animals every year like the residents do. I think when we say get rid of the non native people they are talking about the Jackson and pinedale areas where rich people come in and develope every mountain side they see and then try to change the local governments to their liking. When you say that the only way that the wg&f stays afloat I think that is the most ignorant and stupid statement I have ever heard and I think it has left most people questioning what little intelligence you may have. The fact is Wyoming is one of only two states that has a surplus of money they are nowhere close to being in debt like most of the other states. Coal natural gas and oil keep this state rich alone but when you throw in agriculture and tourism that is pretty much icing on the cake. So don't think that the fraction of a percent of revenue generated by the out of state tags really matters because I just about bet that the game and fish in Wyoming can pretty much wipe their ass with what few dollars that is actually generated by out of state tags.

Ignorant ? I doubt it. an intellectual like you ? I guess not. I've known and talked about the very subject with Wy. G&F employee's over the years. They must have been lies. Maybe we'll be lucky see each other in the field ?

 

[HuntWYODon]

And I do pay taxes on it. If anybody doesn't like non residents there , I really don't give a sht. Non Resident's millions of $ keeps your Game and Fish Dept. running and your economy depends on them.

First off I love NR hunters, just want them to go home when there done. Just my opinion no one elses.
And by the way no economy in WY (sure it helps) depends on hunters. FYI

Actually the energy output of this state keeps the G&F, and the state, and the meth heads going. If it wasnt for the energy I bet you wouldnt be here either. The money u NR pay goes into the G&F pockets, and to be quit frank I dnt give a sht about the G&F they have already screwd this state on mulies, moose, well now that I think of it the only thing really doing good in this state as far as numbers go is Elk. As far as the real natives; guess you dont bring a knife to a gun fight.[/QUOTE]


I've never brought a knife to a gun fight yet. That would be very foolish...

 

[jenbickel]

This thread makes that song, why can't we be friends come to my mind

I moved to wyoming when I was only a couple months old.. I still consider myself a native even though technically I'm not. But I feel like since I have lived here 24 years out of the 24 years I have been alive, that should count right?!

I don't mind out of staters. I helped a guy from Virgina quarter up and pack out an elk while I was elk hunting. I just happened to stumble along him struggling while I was hunting and gave him a hand. It ended up taking up the rest of the day to pack his elk out but he was extremely grateful so I didn't mind. Or when I was lost one year while I was elk hunting, when I finally came upon a road after being lost for 15 hours with no food, water or warm clothes in a rain and snow storm, I helped some guys from Minnesota pack out a deer they had just killed and they gave me a ride back to my truck afterwards. Which is more than I can say for the county 4 dude who I tried to flag down while I was walking down the middle of the road... He actually drove off the road to avoid me.

I personally don't care who sinks more money into the state for tags or whatever else it may be. I think as long as you have respect for the land, animals and people around you then that's all that matters. There's a lot of residents here that act like everyone owes them something. I don't think anyone is better than anyone else just for being a resident.

 

[HuntWYODon]

Thanks Jen. I too have gone out of my way to help both non resident and residents alike pack out their kills. I have friends in Wy. I've known for decades that I've hunted with and have helped me pack out elk and deer in Wy. They too moved there fron South Dakota, etc. and weren't born there but are proud to be from Wy.. They don't get self rightous on me because I'm from Ca.. They know where I've lived and spent a lot of time and I don't call myself a Ca. native so I can be better than anyone else in the state who wasn't born here. I could care less. Doesn't make me any less of a man or person. I can hold my own in any state I hunt and don't have to reside there to know what's going on. I first hunted Wy. when I was 24 yrs. old. Have never missed a yr. since. Have lived and worked on friends ranches there over the yrs. and love the state more than any.That's why I bought property there and not in this f'ked up state. I will live there soon and it won't bother me one bit not to be a native, just like half of the other Wy. residents. I always find "natives" that think they are the ultimate because they live there, Big whoop ! I concern myself with the hunting there. BTW, I'm not a rich lib who bought up half of Jacksonhole. I despise them also.

 

[buckbull]

Huntwyodon I don't think the majority of the residents mind the nonresidents being here. I personally enjoy seeing them and try to talk to every nonresident hunter I encounter, a lot of the don't get to hunt the big game animals every year like the residents do. I think when we say get rid of the non native people they are talking about the Jackson and pinedale areas where rich people come in and develope every mountain side they see and then try to change the local governments to their liking. When you say that the only way that the wg&f stays afloat I think that is the most ignorant and stupid statement I have ever heard and I think it has left most people questioning what little intelligence you may have. The fact is Wyoming is one of only two states that has a surplus of money they are nowhere close to being in debt like most of the other states. Coal natural gas and oil keep this state rich alone but when you throw in agriculture and tourism that is pretty much icing on the cake. So don't think that the fraction of a percent of revenue generated by the out of state tags really matters because I just about bet that the game and fish in Wyoming can pretty much wipe their ass with what few dollars that is actually generated by out of state tags.

Almost 70% of Wyoming Fish and Game's funding comes from non resident tag and license sales. Thats alot of money to spend on toilet paper Wyohunter.

 

[Elkoholic307]

70% is equal to what? I'm sure it's still not much compared to the other examples he listed.