Do you guys like the Barnes TTSX bullets for their accuracy the most? How about the issue of all copper over lead core? I've eaten a lot of wildlife killed with lead core bullets, and except for being fat, bald and ugly, it hasn't effected me much!
Do you guys like the Barnes TTSX bullets for their accuracy the most? How about the issue of all copper over lead core? I've eaten a lot of wildlife killed with lead core bullets, and except for being fat, bald and ugly, it hasn't effected me much!
Makes sense. What if you’re shooting cooper?Here is what my logic has been for a very long time, take it for what it is worth. Would you rather be hit with a baseball or a pool que both flying at similar speeds. Both are pretty similar in size but one weighs quite a bit more, which is why I will generally try to pick the top 20% of the bullet weights that I can get in whatever caliber I am shooting. For instance, my .300 Win Mag and Weatherby Mag have 200 grain bullets, 180 grain for my .30-06 etc.
That's reasonable! Lead core or all Copper? I'm trying to stir up conversation on this thread!Here is what my logic has been for a very long time, take it for what it is worth. Would you rather be hit with a baseball or a pool que both flying at similar speeds. Both are pretty similar in size but one weighs quite a bit more, which is why I will generally try to pick the top 20% of the bullet weights that I can get in whatever caliber I am shooting. For instance, my .300 Win Mag and Weatherby Mag have 200 grain bullets, 180 grain for my .30-06 etc.
This is exactly my thought. I was shooting 168 gr lead out of my 7 Mag. I’ve switched to 145 gr cooper with equal accuracy and better overall performance. Both rounds are handloads and shoot 1/2 MOA. It’s about 150 FPS faster as well but that wasn’t the reason for my change. But it doesn’t hurt...I believe you can get very similar performance from slightly lighter copper bullets vs heavier lead core bullets. Instead of using reduced recoil ammo for my kids when they were young I always used light for caliber barnes bullets to keep recoil down. In my experience the lighter copper (barnes) bullets performed equal to heavier lead core. For instance 120 grain 7mm copper bullet performed equal or better than 140 grain lead core in my limited experience. The 100 grain in my 257 wby is absolutely spectacular, however that is all I've really shot out of the 257.
This is interesting. I got 4 boxes of 2 different brands of .270 copper bullets given to me. Now I have more interest in trying them out.This is exactly my thought. I was shooting 168 gr lead out of my 7 Mag. I’ve switched to 145 gr cooper with equal accuracy and better overall performance. Both rounds are handloads and shoot 1/2 MOA. It’s about 150 FPS faster as well but that wasn’t the reason for my change. But it doesn’t hurt...
I try and get a load that has a velocity of 3000 to 3200 fps. I use a bullet wt that will keep it in that area. I'm like JimP, once I've found a load that my rifle likes and performs out to 400 to 500 yds, I rarely change. My 30-06 load was developed almost 50 years ago and I havn't changed a thing. Still shoots 3125 with a 150 gr Sierra Game King boat tail bullet between .75 & .5 minute groups. My 25-06 is the same. Bought the M77 Ruger in 1969 and found it likes a load with 117 Gr Sierra Game King Boat tails at 3200 and shoots the same groups as my 30-06. My 300 Wby took a lot longer to get a load that really worked. Basically I tried a lot of different bullets and finally found a load with 180 Gr Nosler Partitions.Here is what my logic has been for a very long time, take it for what it is worth. Would you rather be hit with a baseball or a pool que both flying at similar speeds. Both are pretty similar in size but one weighs quite a bit more, which is why I will generally try to pick the top 20% of the bullet weights that I can get in whatever caliber I am shooting. For instance, my .300 Win Mag and Weatherby Mag have 200 grain bullets, 180 grain for my .30-06 etc.
You spend a lot of time shooting! I like to monkey around with loads to keep me shooting a lot. Plus it's fun and interesting! Still searching for the "magic load" that puts all shots into one hole at 300!I try and get a load that has a velocity of 3000 to 3200 fps. I use a bullet wt that will keep it in that area. I'm like JimP, once I've found a load that my rifle likes and performs out to 400 to 500 yds, I rarely change. My 30-06 load was developed almost 50 years ago and I havn't changed a thing. Still shoots 3125 with a 150 gr Sierra Game King boat tail bullet between .75 & .5 minute groups. My 25-06 is the same. Bought the M77 Ruger in 1969 and found it likes a load with 117 Gr Sierra Game King Boat tails at 3200 and shoots the same groups as my 30-06. My 300 Wby took a lot longer to get a load that really worked. Basically I tried a lot of different bullets and finally found a load with 180 Gr Nosler Partitions.
I don't plan on changing anything unless something happens to the availability of any of the components or a barrel replacement on one of the rifles. I don't plan on shooting any all copper or any other type of bullet either. Why change when my loads work and work well! I have been shooting Sierra and Nosler Partition bullets for almost 50 years and have never been disappointed.
I've got the perfect combination, 1 live round, then 2 blanks. One hole everytime! Lol!You spend a lot of time shooting! I like to monkey around with loads to keep me shooting a lot. Plus it's fun and interesting! Still searching for the "magic load" that puts all shots into one hole at 300!
Your right. I do shoot a lot, but with other guns I don't hunt with! I really like to experiment with my .220 AO Swift. I play around with a lot of different powders....looking for that "one holer" load too. This is the best I've been able to do with it, but it's at 100 yds!You spend a lot of time shooting! I like to monkey around with loads to keep me shooting a lot. Plus it's fun and interesting! Still searching for the "magic load" that puts all shots into one hole at 300!
That's zipping right along! Nice group!Your right. I do shoot a lot, but with other guns I don't hunt with! I really like to experiment with my .220 AO Swift. I play around with a lot of different powders....looking for that "one holer" load too. This is the best I've been able to do with it, but it's at 100 yds!View attachment 31976
I've used the 250gr Swift A-Frames a fair bit in my .375H&H. It's a good bullet also. I've killed several Sitka black tail bucks on Kodiak with them.On copper bullet weight vs cup and core , with my copper bullets, I prefer to keep the weights at what is considered the normal accepted weigh for a cup and core.
From my previous post, this may appear hypocritical, but, I’ve an explanation! I hesitated for several years before going to the 250 grain TTSX. I didn’t want to go lighter than the 270 grain TSX that I had used for years. However, I wanted to get away from the 270 grain TSX because of the terrible BC’s.....closely resembling those of a brick! I called Barnes, I wrote emails practically begging for a TTSX/LRX style bullet in the 290 to 300 grain range....for it’s far superior BC. I finally gave up, developed a good load with the 250 TTSX. Satisfied with the velocities and the accuracy, and it appearing that Barnes would never bring out a heavier, high BC bullet......I bought a bunch of the 250’s. Then....Barnes brings out the 270 LRX!
I just need to convince myself to needlessly send a bunch of 250’s downrange! memtb