shock collars

[ivorytip]

insight please???? the deer have started dropping sheds and im ready to take my dog up in hills but this will be his first season actualy looking for fresh naturraly dropped sheds and im nervous that when we bump wintering deer, and im sure we will, that he will take off after them. he is a well trained dog but he is at that 8month old stage where he has become a tad rebeliant. his first encounter with grouped up wild animals i want to be able to nip any bad behavior in the ass right away, sure i can use a leash but ill need him out infront of me way further than any leash i care to cary around. petco has a shock collar for 59$ way cheaper than the 300 400 $ ones ive seen and i dont plan to use it that often. anyone use these cheap petco ones? i havent found a bad review on them yet but i figured some of you good ole boys and gals might know a little something.

 

[CoHiCntry]

No experience with the Petco ones. I'm not sure what brand mine is but it was a little spendy. Mine has a tone on it along with different levels of shock. I shocked him a few times followed by the tone at first. Now I only have to use the tone and can't remember the last time I had to use the shock. He hears that tone and knows right away what it means and comes right back. If I were you I'd find one of these so you don't have to shock him all the time.

 

[wolftalonID]

I have the sportdog brand and love it. I have two mixed labs. One is lab/shorthair pointer, the other is lab/moose(st bernard). The collar works wonders on them both.

I can even get them to be quiet by just putting it on them. They have no Idea when it is going to get em so they just sit nice and tiddy while wearing it. Works well on walks as well. Both will stay shoulder to my knee until I verbally release them to "GO PLAY" and they tear off after what ever I want.

One small nick on the remote and they both will retreat to my side immediately. I am blessed both are very obedient dogs to begin with, but the collar has been an absolute blessing in the woods where a leash is totally retarded.

 

[ivorytip]

thanks for the insight guys. and this one im looking at is called dog shock training collar, has beep. vibrate and the shock. maybe its worth spending the extra mula.

 

[kentuckyhunter]

I got a cheap one petsmart and the range was very short. Batteries didn't last long either


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[ivorytip]

thanks KK, this says 900ft but we all know that usualy means squat

 

[birdhunter]

I use a dogtra fieldstar. It has a range of .5 miles. I use the nick on my lab and then after that I usually just have to use the vibrate and he will come back. I was contemplating on buying a cheap one but spent some money and am happy I did.

 

[KNPV PSD]

Do not go cheap. You will get inconsistency which will do nothing for your dog but confuse him. You want a collar that will give a consistent level if stimulation so it can be useful as a training tool. Dogtra, tri-tronics, and Hawx have all been proven in my training groups.


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[Dearhunter3450]

If I was using a collar to break a dog from chasing deer I would not yell or say a word. If the dog starts to chase hit him and see how he reacts. Dont say a word. Let him think the shock came from the deer. Be ready to turn up intensity. The more excited the pup is the more correction it may take to get result. You will have to figure out how much it will take to stop him. All dogs are different. as PSD said dont go cheap, Dogtra and SportDog are both good brands.

 

[Mwalczak]

do not buy a cheap unit. i used two cheap systems and it was miserable. i had each one less than six months. batteries die, if a dog gets over the hill they don't work... i've found the actual range is about half of what is advertised and that is under ideal conditions. I've been using a tri-tronics trashbreaker for the last 6 years and couldn't be happier.

 

[Kevin Root]

I've used tri-toniics for bird dogs that get out a cover ground. They make awesome collars that work well. I don't have much knowledge on the brand you are looking at but I've had good service on the ones I've had and they work well.

 

[ivorytip]

i ended up with a dogtra, ive been happy with it. while out shed hunting the other day, the dog spotted some geese out in the field, he just pointed at at them and i just watched to see what he would do.... he comes from a good line of bird dogs mind you. i tried to distract him by telling him to find the bone, he took off like a bat out of hell towards those geese.... and adventualy i will use him as a bird dog but not right now and didnt want him to think the geese were bad but not listening to me was bad, so i gave the come back whistle and he didnt even look back so then i zapped and he turned his head and gave me a wth look then kept running, then i upped it and zapped again and he came darting back to me but acted like he was so confused. until i was able to get out of sight of the birds he kept his focus on the birds and only the birds pointing every time he stopped. maybey its time to add some bird training to his program????? he has the antler thing down solid but this will be his first season with fresh natural dropped sheds and i dont want to distract him from his main purpose. any feed back on that?

 

[ivorytip]

and thank you for all the feed back on the collar

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

You have to be careful with shock collars as there can possibly be unintended consequences. I've trained many hunting dogs with & without collars. Ideally you should start many weeks before you actually go in the field with the dog. Lots of good information here and remember they are "line of sight" just like any radio signal.

I've seen dogs that are so afraid of collars after they have been shocked that they just won't do anything until the collar is removed. Some just lay down and won't move. Start slow and use the least amount of power possible. The other suggestion I have is get one that is "waterproof" (as far as that goes). They should last longer if/when they get wet.

 

[Colorado Cowboy]

I've used tri-toniics for bird dogs that get out a cover ground. They make awesome collars that work well. I don't have much knowledge on the brand you are looking at but I've had good service on the ones I've had and they work well.

They make a great collar.

 

[Ikeepitcold]

I have a Sport dog and I'm on the fence with it. Batteries don't last very long. The tone is pretty load and I guess it's been working but I liked my old tri tronics better but it was discontinued. I use mine for obedience training and it works well. In the field it also works but with training a new pup it seems the battery craps out to soon.

 

[Kevin Root]

I've only used mine mainly to keep them from listening to the come back whistle. For the most part, an extended leash but typically I found once they get zapped once or twice they listen and I did not have to use it much in the rest of the season pointing birds and the older they get it's on just for insurance or in case but I rarely use it. I never wanted to use it when they were pointing birds. I did not want to shy they from pointing.

I have had to send mine in to get rebuilt, Tri-tronics offered that service. Putting them away for a season without giving them a charge now and then I had heard hurt the batteries but I'm not sure how the new ones are now.