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nv-hunter

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Went out this week to check the water hole I had a camera and note on for archery antelope only to find a blind on it and that someone had removed the batteries from the camera and took the bottle with my contact info. So now rushing to find a new spot to hunt that doesn't have a blind or a hundred horses at the water hole. Only thing I can hope is that with this weather and the spring almost dry now is that whoever did this maybe sitting on a dry spring that 2 (both my son-in-law and I have tags) of us would have been counting on having water in it in a month. Saw lots of antelope but not much water on the scouting trip. We had the blind but didn't set it up anywhere as either there were too many horses or a blind or camera at the places we found. Now to find a goat worth the tag.

This is the only time I've had anybody mess with anything out hunting. Kinda puts a damper on the whole season as this spot was chosen and watched for a couple of years because of the set up and my SIL shooting a long bow.
 

NVBird'n'Big

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What unit are you in? My buddy had his blind trashed the day before opening day in 015 a few years back ruined the whole hunt for him. I have also been run off of a water hole by an a-hole who had a blind set up but didn't show up opening day, so we set up on the hole (not near his blind) the next day. When he showed up at 10am on the second day he was the most irrational human being I have ever encountered, because he had a blind up he truly believed he was entitled to the hole for the whole season whether he was there or not. This was also in 015, now I am convinced the area is cursed for me. I have also had a hole with a blind dry up 2 days before the season there. Good story with that is that another hunter found my contact info in the blind and called to tell me it was dry so I was able to change plans.

People like this are what has turned me off to archery antelope hunting, the blind wars are ridiculous. If I were you I would have looked for his contact info in the blind and given him a call, or... would have dropped trow and left a big turd in his blind.
 

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I've heard that when the tie down cords come loose, those blinds can start rolling across the prairie like a tumble weed, never to be seen again.
 

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Here's my thoughts on why I did what I did, Nevada already is looking at regs to limit blinds and cameras for hunting so I don't want to add to that, his ethics are not at the level of mine so I'll be the bigger man and walk away head held high. Maybe this is the only spot he knows or can get to physically. I did contact him and got the run around and stories changed about what he saw when he went in this spring, so who knows the truth.

Now as to the questions that have been asked its 041-042. My morning coffee hadn't kicked in yet so no turd in the blind LOL did think about leaving TP with chocolate smeared on it but didn't. Had it been trapping season maybe even some nice skunky coyote lure LOL.

Only issue I've ever had before is buddies from work mooning my cameras when they find them but I do the same to them lol. Heck I've helped several guys on here with areas and even ranch access for a sheep hunt so hopefully I'm building some good Karma for a sheep tag soon.
 
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Fink

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That would be stealing Which I don't agree with.
Yeah. My sarcasm font is broken.

I sure do hear a lot about these kinds of issues at water holes.. Not my cup of tea, thats for sure. I'd rather just move on, than deal with some ahole that's willing to mess with my stuff. Life's way to short to hunt anywhere near some jerk.
 

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Man that's crazy!! If this is antelope hunting in Nevada I guess I wouldn't be much of an antelope hunter. Constantly competing with others is not my idea of a fun time. And I hate it when someone thinks they own public land. Opening day it's first come first serve not two months before the season, and for the whole season is crazy in my mind.
Just get there early and be in there when he comes in and say Boo! Lol.
 

Tim McCoy

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If one knew for a fact the blind setter was the same one as the trail camera sabouter, I'd have done something. Turd is a good one, as is WB's idea.

I'd probably reset the camera, then double up my camera sets, one on the game spot and one off a ways and very discrete, to record activity at the camera...
 

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I have no use for people that want to stake a claim to a water hole a couple of months before the seasons even start or even a week before hand if they are not there every day. These are the same people that pull a camp trailer onto National Forest or BLM land and figure that they have a camp site for as long as they leave their vehicle parked there even if the laws say different.

I do believe that I would report them to the BLM if that is the agency incharge and do so every week until they do something about it.
 

nv-hunter

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Wasn't trying to start a debate about putting up blinds and such just venting about respect for others. Pretty common to place blinds so animals can get used to them, like I said first time I've ever had issues. Met some great people out scouting and while archery hunting goats here In Nevada. Had the non res tag holder share his blind with my son one year so he could take his antelope . Heck this unit is bigger then some states and 11 archery tags total this spot is super small and very close to town so I think that's why the interest. One of those spots that my ex father in law could get too and so I invited him to come with one or two days as he's in his 70s and n erver been antelope hunting.

To those that made comments about it Bing public land and not having any use for those that have set up blinds before season how many leave the drainage completely opening morning when you see someone else already walking up the trail? Bet most just hunt the other side of the drainage because its public even tho someone got there first
 
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Not to sidetrack the thread too much but hunting a area and seeing someone else in the same drainage is one thing. But homesteading a watering pond is something else. I have placed blinds on water holes a few hours before daylight and the same animals have come into the water, they could care less. What they do care about are different smells and noises that might be present in the blind.

After thinking about it I personally would leave the blind owner a note saying that the authorities have been notified of someone trying to homestead a piece of ground and then see what happens.
 

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I've had better luck in blind only up a week or day before hunting out of them that's why my blind wasn't up yet but to me hunting a area that someone else is in before me is just like jumping a water hole someone else wants to hunt and has been there getting it ready before me, or still hunting any where near someone in a blind if I know they are there before my hunting starts.

Watched my bull for 2 hours to make sure the guys closer to the mountain that were also gassing when we started weren't going to hunt it. They left after an hour and went around the mountain and left the area after an hour so when we started our stalk and got to where they were relized they couldnt see the bull from where they were. When we saw them and the bull we figured we would get to watch them hunt the bull no question about hunting till they left the area.
 

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After thinking about it I personally would leave the blind owner a note saying that the authorities have been notified of someone trying to homestead a piece of ground and then see what happens.
I left a blind and a couple cameras on water one week before the season in Nevada last year. It seemed pretty common and I don't think the "authorities" care as long as it's not making a mess. Legally there's no difference between that and hanging a tree stand in a timber patch a week before the season. Would you put a note on that too saying the authorities have been contacted?
 

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I left a blind and a couple cameras on water one week before the season in Nevada last year. It seemed pretty common and I don't think the "authorities" care as long as it's not making a mess. Legally there's no difference between that and hanging a tree stand in a timber patch a week before the season. Would you put a note on that too saying the authorities have been contacted?
If the blind is on BLM, I believe the regulations state you can't put it up more than ten days before the season. With the NV archery season opening on August 1, the other hunter was a little early I would say! Not sure if they enforce it though. I had a tag in 015 last year and saw a few set-up prior to the ten day limitation. It is a little frustrating if you don't live close enough to the unit to be able to get your blind set-up prior to the opener. Since most waterholes are on or close to two-tracks, once the season opens you almost feel like you can't even drive the roads to look for a spot without potentially driving up on or by another hunter's blind and possibly messing up their hunt. Even getting off road to check on a water you are hoping you don't walk up on a blind especially if a a buck was just on his way in. Very uncomfortable situation to find yourself in.

I was once hunting muzzy elk in NM and had set-up my Double Blind on a small tank in the early afternoon for the evening hunt. I had a group of three hunters walk in to the tank and they each went to a different corner of the tank and took a stand and completely ignored me as I whistled and waved to them. It was public land and they had the same right to hunt that tank that I had but afterall I was there first. So besides being completely discourteous all they did was just ensure that no one would kill a bull there that night...

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I left a blind and a couple cameras on water one week before the season in Nevada last year. It seemed pretty common and I don't think the "authorities" care as long as it's not making a mess. Legally there's no difference between that and hanging a tree stand in a timber patch a week before the season. Would you put a note on that too saying the authorities have been contacted?

Yes I would. I don't see any need for hunters to homestead a piece of property on public ground. It doesn't make any difference if it is a camper, blind, or a treestand. Also if I wanted to hunt in the same area I'll hunt the same area.
 

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There are slob hunters everywhere. A couple of years ago we were sitting in a natural blind overlooking a guzzler in the Ruby mountains of NV. We left a big sign on a cardboard box where the two-track leaves the main road the said "archer in stand" , it's pretty self explanitory I think. Then some jack-@$$ drives around the sign and rides his avt right up to the guzzler, of course the deer never came in that day.