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    Pattern comments please

    I had some time between hunts so I wanted to see what our guns pattern looked like with goose loads. The target paper was 22" wide by 28 inch high.

    Remington 11-87 / modified choke / Rem HV steel 1 1/4 , 3 inch, BB
    Center mass was 4 inches low and 8 inches right
    67 of 90 BB on paper.
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    Stoeger 3500 / modified choke / same shell
    Center mass was 5 inches high and 2 inches left
    61 of 90 BB on paper
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    Seems like the Stoeger patterned fine.
    The Remington though.....I was disappointed in the right component.

    Shots were no wind on a bench.

    What's everyone's thoughts? Are these performing as specs?
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    Do shotguns have brands and loads they shoot better like rifles?
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    I've heard that they do....but have found nothing on the interweb to back up rumor mill and just plain old trying a bunch out.

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    Seems like from reading last night I need to shoot more and take some averages for a good data set.

    I also need to shoot a few more with a full choke and check point of impact.

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    What was the distance?

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    Big steel shot is notoriously tough to pattern.

    I dont know how far your average shot is where you are hunting.

    I've tried a lot of shells over the years.

    Factoring in affordability/patterning nothing beats these for ANY waterfowl species out to 50 yards.

    https://www.cabelas.com/product/Winc...ase/740470.uts

    12 Gauge 3-1/2" 1-1/4 oz. # 2 1,625

    Go with #2 shot...you get 60% more BB's to fill in those holes.

    Beyond 50 you need bigger shot. But 50 and closer...and you own them....

    My guns always patterned best with these shells through an improved-modified COMP-N-CHOKE.

    Full choke was a very close second.....

    If I have time this week I'll shoot one at 30 , 40 and 50 yards at a piece of paper and you can see the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mallardsx2 View Post
    What was the distance?
    40 yards shot.

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    Those Winchester 2s is what we shoot for ducks and have had great results.

    Honkers we are using BB.

    Our geese kill hole is at 25 yards and most of our shots are 30 yards and under.

    This experiment I'm conducting now is because most of the geese we have are pretty stale and hard to decoy. We have had alot come in cup up and right at about 30 yards flare and turn.

    I'm nitpicking now I think and most likley this weather will push a ton of fresh geese in and make all the ones we have now break up in groups and feed harder.

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    Is putting the decoys upwind of you 50 yards and waiting for them to pass over your pit and then shooting them in the tail at point blank range an option? Depends on the layout I suppose. And it requires absolute perfection of your camo..

    Lot of times when you open up on them like that they flare right back after the first shot in your face and its easy pickings.

    It does take some self control and a consistent wind.

    Been there done that on those birds that thought they were clever...lol

    Not to mention that shooting at a goose's back exposes their vitals to you. Complete spine and when the wings are open the feathers are much thinner there on those last season birds. 1" of penetration and you are in lungs and all of the other goodies.

    If I was consistently shooting geese at 30 yards, I would be using a skeet choke and # 2's Those birds that like to sit down at 40 yards are the issue. I feel your pain.

    Disclaimer- As you know those 3.5 HV are hard on the shoulder if your not using a gas operated gun. Even if you are they are still hard on your shoulder.
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    I'm with Mallards, switch to 2's, the pellet count difference between 2 and BB is stark, like 155-160 to 90. That's a lot of extra shot to help fill out a pattern. It's hard to miss with 2 shot when they're in the decoys, and it'll kill em pretty dead at 40 too. I dont shoot them much farther than that with anything.
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