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    Quote Originally Posted by QuazyQuinton View Post
    By all accounts, the Hammonds are well-respected in the community. You don't get respect in small-town eastern Oregon if you're a dirtbag. I don't know all the facts, and I'm not laying out who or what I agree or disagree with, but you have begun painting with a very broad brush.

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    could be , but it the very best type of brush to paint with.
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    Until you start making mistakes because the brush is too broad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuazyQuinton View Post
    Until you start making mistakes because the brush is too broad.

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    they have clearly shown (at least to me) the brush is not to broad and dirtbags is a perfect description.

    if you do not agree, then ,I guess ,we will just have to agree to disagree
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    I was primarily objecting to the fact that you equated the Hammonds to a guy who murdered two game officers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuazyQuinton View Post
    I was primarily objecting to the fact that you equated the Hammonds to a guy who murdered two game officers.

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    well,they've got a lot in common. poaching, zero respect for the law, zero respect for the lives of others and the belief they did nothing wrong..

    I stand by my "dirtbag" statement
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    Not to hijack the thread, but some here may not know anything about Claude Dallas that was referred to. I was a police officer for 30 years, and have a bro-in-law who was a warden not too far from where the murders took place. Dallas was a professional poacher, and had moved into an area of the Owyhee Desert in N. Nevada and was actually barely into Idaho. A local ranch couple had called the CO's on Dallas, and while checking him in his camp, he drew down on them and shot each 3 times with a .357. He later claimed self defense as the "wardens were aggressive." He must have thought that they were still a threat as they laid there dying, because he took the time to go into his tent to get a .22 revolver and put one shot at contact distance into their heads. After that he drove into the Nevada desert and buried the bodies and disappeared. None of this is supposition, as Dallas had a buddy in camp and he told it all, and none of his testimony was refuted by Dallas. The locals and the media of the time (35+ years ago) made a folk hero of him. They had to do a full survey to determine which state the camp was in, and if the trial had ended up in his home county of Nevada, he may well have walked out a free man. As it was, the Idaho trial judge was shocked at the manslaughter verdict and went out of the guidelines to give Dallas the maximum sentence. The man served his time and is out and may well still be alive somewhere.
    I have no comment on the Hammonds, as all I know is what has been reported or discussed on blogs such as this. Likely, the truth is lost somewhere in the middle of all the "news" that gets thrown around.

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    Wow. Thats a chilling story.

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    Actually, Dallas buried Pogues body, then threw officer Elms in the Owyhee River (after he contemplated "quartering" his body to make it lighter to pack).

    Dallas also didn't use a .22 revolver to shoot them both in the head, but rather a .22 rifle.

    If you want the whole story, read the book, "Give a boy a gun" by Jack Olsen.

    Real folk "hero"...about like the Hammonds and Bundy's.

    The whole bunch are equally worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidoggy View Post
    well,they've got a lot in common. poaching, zero respect for the law, zero respect for the lives of others and the belief they did nothing wrong..

    I stand by my "dirtbag" statement
    I must agree with kidoggy on this one.
    When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

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