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    Quote Originally Posted by Prerylyon View Post
    I guess this will be my 1st time going after elk, or any animal that big, and I have it drilled into my head that I need stouter bullets than I used for deer-like a 150 or 160 gr.

    Granted, its a cow tag, but I've been hunting long enough to know things don't go as planned. No, I won't willingly take a running or otherwise lousy shot, but in that 1/2 second after pulling the trigger an animal can move just enough that your boiler room shot is now punching the edge of a shoulder blade or worse, or your flinch or whatever.

    To me, its that holy grail of penetration and shock/energy transfer-ideally there should be both to quickly kill game. No such perfect bullet exists, of course, but within the capabilities of a rifle and shooter, there are likely better choices for the task at hand.

    Thanks for all the shared info! I will post my chrono speeds of my 140 gr load and whatever I end up working up, it might be some weeks with the crazy schedule of life, but I have some more ideas now and more numbers to consider.

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    A stouter bullet for elk is not a bad idea at all, but that does not necessiarily mean a heavier one. If you can't drive a 160 fast enough to reliably expand for your max range, a 140-150 gr. bullet is probably a better idea in a 280 imo. A 140 in .284 has a decent SD of .248, identical to a 165 in .308. Use a monolithic, bonded or partition design and dead elk ensue even with some bone contact. My son put a 115 Nosler BT through a big cow at 75 yards, nicked a rib going in and out. That bullet has a SD of .249.

    Generally, a SD of around .250 and above, with regular hunting bullets, will give good penetration from standard cartridges. They work even better if monolithic, bonded or partitioned IMO. The key is placing a good bullet from an elk capable cartridge very very well. The grenade style like Bergers, from what I understand, perform best when heavy for caliber, but I have not tried one.

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    I've taken an elk with the 270 win and a 140gr AB started at 2950fps at 614yds. Through my 264WM at 3000fps I took my best muley with the 140gr AB. I shot him at 180yds and the bullet hit in front of the hip and lodged under the hide on the offside of the neck. Through a 270WSM with the 140gr AB at 3033fps I finished another muley for a hunter who hit one poorly at 400yds at a similar angle found it under the hide in the neck. The list goes on but those are the ones that stand out. The rest were normal broadside shots where it exited and the critter died. I wouldn't be afraid to use the 140gr AB or PT from your 280 for elk.

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    With my experience it doesnt matter what bullet you shoot them with as much as to where you shoot them. The fastest ive dropped an elk was a cow at 75 yards with a 243. It was a straight on shot with a 100 gr core lockt delivered in the nose. The longest i have had track one down was with a 162 grain SST out of a 7 mag that barely clipped 1 lung. Waiting for the right shot and staying within the effective range of my rifle and how i can shoot it has helped me the most hunting.

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