So do elk, but I like seeing those big moist pellets.
If I see horse crap going in the same direction as I am. I know i'm going in the wrong direction.
I backpack as well and try to go where horses cant go. I also have a sweet spot next to a trail thatholds elk that nobody checks but its ambush hunting and you can 't guarantee they will be there when you are. Gonna scout a new area this year but grizzly abound. Just frustrated by stupidity and bad luck.
We hunt elk on Union Pass in Wyoming and west of Deer Lodge in Montana.
In Montana the area we hunt is closed to ATVs above a certain elevation. But if we get an early snow fall the elk are usually where the people are.
In Wyoming Union Pass is a ATV parking lot, but because of wolves they kind of limit the ammount of tags they give out there at Lake of the woods and surrounding. So it's mostly residents, and just a few non-res.
I know some of that Deer Lodge country. When was the last time you hunted over there? I don't recall an elevation-related ATV rule, so it might be a different area.
I would love to see some pics of the bulls you have taken out of there. Shoot, throw in some pics of some of those Wyoming bulls, too, while you're at it! Gotta love the horn porn.
By "We" I meant my family. I have been stationed overseas for 14 out of 20 years in the military and have only got to hunt Wyoming once and Montana twice. Neither time did I score.
I have those night before the opener moments where the 360 bull comes walking through camp, but mostly I am there to help my aging father drag his out.
He's had a Union Pass cow moose and take a quite a few cow elk on Mount Powell.
It's not an elevation based atv lock out, I guess I did a crappy job of explaining that. It's a fence across the road blocking all traffic, we used to hunt it horseback.
I am greatly lacking on horn porn, very sadly. Been to Namibia, hunted in Germany, hunted here in Australia. That's about it.
A good point was made earlier about the "in-between" country. As a generally solo or with one other person elk hunter without horses, I have been limited to just a few miles beyond the trailhead to realistically get an elk out in the early season without spoiling. That country lots of guys pass up can be good, especially in smaller or heavily hunter wilderness areas. Look for access points that are not at the main trailhead and hike in prepared to camp 1-2 miles from the road. Lots of game gets spooked to the perimeter once all the people and outfitters pack in and start hunting. Look at the map for natural escape routes out of interior areas. I once witnessed a mass exodus of elk out of a wilderness to a non-wilderness area. Elk will hole up and shut up, but they're still there.
Union Pass or Mount Powell?
Hunted there from the time I was 12 until I was 18, then again sporatically since then.
Last time on Mount Powell was in 2003, last time on Union Pass was in 2007.
I think the answer you are looking for is that I have not killed an elk.
I don't live in Elk country, I live overseas (until the end of 2013). It's not easy for me to get back most years and I can only remember 3 or 4 elk hunts in 19 years in the military. None of which resulted in a dead elk for me.
This problem we have been having with Al Queda has been my primary focus since 2001.
I am finally after 20 years retiring in 7 months. Feels nice to be moving back to Elk country, and making up for a life time of not hunting very much.