It is very frustrating. Kind of like corner jumping, where you step across corners of private/public properties. Many landowners feel the public property behind theirs is theirs. They can get pretty fiesty and in your face when asking how to get to said public property. The fact that we are out-of-staters makes it even worse. One year my wife and I were hunting Raymond Mtn. and we came up to a fence with a locked gate. The land behind the fence was posted and we turned the Jeep around, I noticed something just inside the fence. I looked over the fence and there was a pile of rocks in the shape of a grave with a cross at one end. On the cross was painted "here lies the last California hunter who came through this gate". Nuf' said.