My son and I hunted his youth hunt in the Ochoco last week (Oct 13-19) We had heard stories from others hunting previously that the elk were all over. Most of the hunters we saw claimed to not be able to find any either. It took us 4-1/2 days to find three cows, but the shot was too far for my son. The next day we called in a nice 4x4 bull to about 15 yards. And a 5x5 the next day. Too bad we had an Anterless tag for sure! But OTHER than that...the woods were void of Elk. We saw 200 deer in our 6 days there. I'm sure the pressure had driven them down or out of the area. But we weren't sure. Just wondering if anyone had an explanation...Thanks