I really wish I could here. I hunt in areas with black bear and grizzly bear densities that are the same as, or in some places, higher than coastal Alaska. Last year I saw 8 cougars while bowhunting. One morning while deer hunting I watched 8 grizzlies roam the bowl I had slept in the night before. But I'm not allowed to back a sidearm. So I pack the spray. I'm not dead yet.