After using these for my first season, I am totaly set on these. If you just drop your binos to your chest and pick them up to use again then probably ought to stay with the crooked horn because the binos and the case are alot on your chest. If you can get use to pulling them down and tucking them under the cover, even if you dont hook the bottom, then they stay put and feel comfortable. If you wind up bent over or on your knees for a stalk, then they are perfect for this. They provide just the right amount of protection for my Leicas.