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    Muzzleloader- issues with powder

    Anyone else ever have issues with a certain powder for their muzzleloader? I'm getting fizzle shots from American Pioneer powder. Don't know if this is because of temps, humidity, or the shelf life of the powder has been met.

    I have a Thompson center encore 50cal with leupold scope

    Shooting tc shockwave 250gr sabot
    209 primer- Remington clean bore

    Changed to a new breach plug/ my extra one.
    Bought new primers
    Same results from the gun. Fizzle shot

    The powder is the only thing left to change.

    Ideas?





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    Never heard of that powder, I guess that I don't watch enough of the TV shows with them using it.

    I've tried a lot of the powders out there including Blackhorn, and Triple 7 and keep coming back to Pyrodex RS.

    But then I have never had a problem with the powder not going off either.

    I just looked it up and there is a very dismal review of it on the Chuck Haws site.

    http://chuckhawks.com/american_pioneer_powder.htm
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    Try blackhorn 209 and triple 7 bore cleaner and how much powder are you useing on my TC i shot 90grains by weight with 300 grain powerbelt
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    I have used APP for years in my Cowboy Action Shooting and my ML hunting. What size are you using? I use FFF for almost everything. I have never had any problems with it. My load in my TC Pro Hunter is 100 gr powder with a 300 gr bullet and a standard 209 shotgun primer.
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    In order. I wouldn't use that powder. Ensure the flash hole is perfectly clean. Use a 209 primer.

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    go to Blackhorn 209 and don't look back.

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    Just want to say I've used APP powder for about 7 or 8 years (about 15# per year) without any issues. There is nothing wrong with it. The only thing I've found with it is that it puts out a lot of smoke. I buy it by the case at about 30 to 40% less than all the other BP substitutes.
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    I have never used it and reading a lot of the reviews on it shows that there are a lot of users out there that don't like it.

    Perhaps it is more user friendly in a cartridge case rather than in a muzzle loader, I have read where it has a cleaner burn and that would make it a lot better in a revolver firing a encased cartridge.

    But if the OP is having problems he needs to switch powders and see if the problem follows, it sounds like he has changed everything else.
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    Actually it give me better groups in my muzzle loader because of less fouling.
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