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    I love the diversity and availability I can find in 30 cal. As far as effectiveness I don't believe it matters as long as whatever gun is being used is kept within it's effective range and a quality bullet is used. A shot through a bull elks lungs from a 25-06 or a .338 will produce the same results- dead elk very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    However,,,, the new 30 Nosler and 6.5 x.300 may be worth a look.
    How's that for throwing fuel on a fire, I mean discussion. :-)
    I did some reading on the 6.5x300 Weatherby and it sounds like it is going to be a very fun barrel burner.

    Too bad it is only available in the Mark V right now.
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    My preference is sub 30.
    I really like the 270 with 130 btsp. That set up has never let me down. Pleasant to shoot and carry up the hills.
    As others have said, nothing beats good shot placement.
    Last edited by rjroberts15; 08-02-2016 at 02:22 PM.

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    We shoot .308 because we can get it cheap which translates into more practice.

    Eventually we will reload and it won't matter.

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    I've only ever shot a .270. It seems to kill stuff pretty dead.
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    257 wby. My sub moa vanguard has been amazing. I've been shooting copper for years, amazing penetration. Basically no hold over at 400 yds= dead deer or elk. My 30--06 has not killed an elk any faster than my. 257 wby.

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    Some of you may know Broz; I borrowed his response to this question from another forum.

    "I will offer you not over look the 300 win mag either. This year has cinched it for me. What I thought I have been seeing with different caliber and killing elk has now become so obvious that I will not sugar coat it any more. I have tested, owned, built and shot many 7 rem mags, 7mm-300 win mags, a few 7 stw's, a 7 RUM or two and others in the .284 family. With a variety of bullets from most of the prominent mfg's in weights including, 140, 150, 160, 168, 180 and now 195. I have also tested a variety of 30 cals, 300 win mag, 300 rum, 30-378, 30 Lapua, and so on. With bullets from the same mfg's in the 180, 190, 210, 215 and 230 gr weights. Hunted at most distances from 50 yards to over 1000 with most kills being from 350 to 800 yards.
    Yesterday as we are approaching the end of a very long season, including two management elk hunts, I took my second elk. That second elk put us at number 70 for the season and I have been right there for most of them. Sometimes 3 in one evening off the same hay field. What I have seen is this. Yes the 7mm will kill your elk just fine with a well placed bullet. But there is no doubt the 30 cal will simply take the life out of them faster. And the 388 faster yet. Now add the possibility of the placement being off just a little and this becomes even more obvious. This is not something to ignore. With increased distances the real life possibility of us being off a little is real. Trust me when I tell you that if you are off a little with any 7mm you better have another ready to go to that elk as soon as you can get back on it. The 30 cal and 338 will cover you here in most cases with heavy for caliber bullets. Some may not agree with this post, some may even resent it a little. But I offer this only for those who may benefit from my experience of taking and field dressing 100's of elk with the calibers and bullet mentioned.
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    I shoot a Winchester model 70 7mm mag and a Remington model 700 .300 rum. I also have a ford a chevy and a dodge!

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    So that response by Broz said that your 7mm will kill and elk just fine but a 338 will kill it more dead. No need to shoot a rifle that will also kill your shoulder more dead. Why not advocate for a 600 Nitro Express since bigger is better?

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    LOL; How true!

 

 
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