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06-21-2012, 07:45 PM
i have a 338 ruger 77 i plan on using for elk this year, its loaded with an older leapould scope but just aint happy with the scope. what do u guys recomend for a quality scope that i wont pay over 550 for? i love nikon, redfield i heard is making some great turns on thier optics, any feedback?

Bitterroot Bulls
06-21-2012, 07:48 PM
What are your plans for the scope?

How far do you shoot? Are you backpacking, horsepacking, truck hunting?

06-21-2012, 08:09 PM
back packing, i usualy use my win 270 m70 but i drew an idaho's super hunt tag this year for elk and want to beable to reach out there a bit further and still cause damage if u know what i mean. im not a big fan of long shots, furthest id be shooting is 400 if no other way to get closer. way comfortable with my 270 though and am torn if i should just stick with it or go bigger just incase.

Bitterroot Bulls
06-21-2012, 08:28 PM
That is a great elk cartridge, and will work great for your uses. Just plan on getting some good range time with it.

If you want to get to 400 yards a holdover reticle could be really usefull. Lots of companies have them. I like a few of them including the HHR reticle from Sightron, Dead Hold BDC from Vortex, and the Rapid Z reticles from Zeiss.

You don't need much magnification to shoot accurately to 400 yards, or even farther, so something in the 3-9, 3.5-10, 4-12 range would be ideal I think. That will keep your exit pupils sufficient for calibrated reticle use in low light.

Here are three good options (not in any particular order):

Sightron S2 Big Sky 3-9X42 or 3-12X42 w/HHR

Vortex Viper HS 3.5-10X44 w/ Dead Hold BDC

Zeiss Conquest 3-9X40 w/ Rapid Z600

Old Hunter
06-21-2012, 08:46 PM
Redfield is an average budget scope. Similar to a VX-1

6mm Remington
06-21-2012, 11:17 PM
My son has a Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x44mm with the Z600 reticle and that sure is a great scope and simple to use.

He also has a 4.5-14x40mm Leupold with the B&C reticle on a different rifle and it too is very user friendly. I am a huge Leupold fan, but the Zeiss is pretty darn sweet. BB knows his stuff when it comes to optics and gives good sound advise. These are two I like.


06-22-2012, 12:22 AM
If you want to go cheap and rugged, try the Burris Fullfield II with Ballistic Plex reticle. I really like them I have two, One on a 270WSM and the other on a 300 WSM. I have not had any problems with them. They are bright, clear, and only cost about $200.00. They also come with a lifetime warranty. The drop compensator's go out to 600 yards for magnum calibers and 500 yards for non-mag calibers.

06-22-2012, 06:48 AM
thanks guys helps alot

Bitterroot Bulls
06-22-2012, 09:17 AM
I have mentioned before that I am not a huge fan of Leupold's B&C reticle, but many are.

The other issue I have with VX-3 series is the variable eye relief. Eye relief varies almost 1/2" between the max and min magnification. That means a different cheek weld. It is my undertanding that the new VX-6 series has constant eye relief, but I haven't tested one yet, and it is well above the OP's price range.

The above Sightron varies about .2 inches, which is easier to deal with.

The Vortex and Zeiss have constant, long eye relief. They are really nice in that area.

06-22-2012, 09:33 AM
Zeiss Conquest 3-9X40 w/ Rapid Z600

Ivorytip, I would definitely go this route if I were in your shoes.

06-22-2012, 04:39 PM
BB knows his stuff about optics. I also have a 338 in that exact gun. I have a burris fullfield 2 on it. I would probably go with the vortex IMO.

07-06-2012, 07:20 PM
well bb i got the z600 zeiss, wow! the clearity is phenominal! so worth the extra dollars, dedd get what you pay for when it come to optics. im affraid to even look through a swarovski's. thanks for the advice!

07-06-2012, 07:22 PM
hvfd21walker, what part of the bitter roots you from? i lived in hamilton for a year back in 97 98. i love that country!

Bitterroot Bulls
07-06-2012, 07:37 PM
well bb i got the z600 zeiss, wow! the clearity is phenominal! so worth the extra dollars, dedd get what you pay for when it come to optics. im affraid to even look through a swarovski's. thanks for the advice!

I am glad it is working out for you. Make sure to chronograph your hunting load and input the data into Zeiss' ballistic calculator. Then, adjust the magnification ring to the calibrated setting, and field test your drops before you go hunting.

07-06-2012, 07:55 PM
will do thanks again

07-08-2012, 08:50 PM
Second the motion for the Zeiss

07-12-2012, 07:11 PM
Zeiss Conquest all the way...one heck of a scope for the $$$!

07-13-2012, 08:50 AM
I put a sightron siii on my 300 wsm it is a good scope but heavy I was really impressed with it I wouldnt over look the bushnell elite series either i picked up a 3-9x50 from bass pro for around 450.00

07-21-2012, 11:46 PM
For the $, I think Vortex has as good of quality optics as most of the mid to high end brands.They also have a lifetime, no questions asked warranty - run over it, drop it off a cliff, whatever happens, they will replace it with a new one.