View Full Version : Eastman Rock's Another Review

04-05-2012, 07:47 AM
This is my style... Love it.

Guy, I don't know if you ever read these forum's but thanks for what you guys do. This really helps us out.


04-05-2012, 09:08 AM
That's pretty neato.

Kevin Root
04-05-2012, 09:48 AM
That was a nice write up. Layering is a key component at keeping the elements at bay. I liked the comparison sheet between like layer items. It gives a good overview of some of the options.

04-05-2012, 09:51 AM
Eastman's, please provide me with the gear listed in the review so that I might give a counter review.


04-05-2012, 10:28 AM
Curious why under armor was not a choice. Their hunt line seems pretty complete.

04-05-2012, 01:58 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I am kind of on the fence on modern synthetics versus wool.

In wool I have my Germanic hunting uniform of a Rascher jacket, Blaser plaid shirt and either Steinbock wool pants if it is raining or Meindl buffalo leather pants if it is not. Haven't worn it in the states, but I would.

In synthetic I have a Beretta Windstopper Realtree MAX-1 outfit, two LL-Bean soft shell gore-tex outfits one in Green/Loden and one in Mossy Oak Advantage.

I also have workable mountaineering gear I got issued while in Afghanistan from Mountain Hardware, North Face, Blackhawk, and 5.11 Tactical, as well as Navy TYPE III Camo system with the full issue of kit on that and almost the same exact thing in Desert Camo from my time in Somalia, and Green Camo from my time in Turkey.

The downside to any synthetic system of course is toughness and fire repellancy.

The downside to any wool system of course is water repellancy for heavy down pours (not usually a problem in the Rockies), and cleanability.

The downside to any cotton based system like the military camoflauge is waterpoofness. Though in the case of the new Type 3 we were issued Gore-Tex Jacket, Bibs, and a Fleece liner.

I think any system is a compramise. You either sweat, get burned, or get wet.

04-05-2012, 02:33 PM
They probably didn't provide a sample.

Kevin Root
04-05-2012, 03:48 PM
Edelweiss, I was leery on the merino wool idea when I first heard of it. Hearing the word "wool" brought back itchy and uncomfortable memories to add to that list of the downsides you mention. You are right on the downsides. Wool is not as water repelling/wicking and they have a bit longer dry time mentioned so there are trade offs.

Hearing about folks saying how odor protected it was got me to try it and see. What I found was that it exceeded my expectations on odor protection and was soft like cotton, no itch on the Icebreaker brand I have as a base and mid layer. I can wear a shirt for a week+, sweating daily up and down the mountains and believe it or not it still smells pretty fresh and there is very little noticeable body odor after a week+. Hanging it out to dry on a branch if/when I broke a sweat and then putting it back on seems to work well. Same seems to go for the socks and merino wool synthetic blend I have. Having an extra pair on hand is all I need for week plus long trips to keep me going. I'm sold on merino wool.

+1 for me on merino wool as a good base and mid layer for insulation even with the downsides.

+1 for me on modern synthetics as well for wind protection, waterproofness and breathable layers. For me they seem to both work well together as a solution.

04-05-2012, 09:45 PM
Core4Element is another great option. They make some great stuff comparible to the others mentioned at a much lower price if you get them on Camofire.

04-05-2012, 09:55 PM
I do have to say the merino wool does not give you a warm fuzzy on comfort. At least the Kuiu brand. It's great and has an incredible athletic fit but it is not the most comfortable wear.

04-06-2012, 02:26 AM
It really just depends on where you are hunting.

In Alaska south of the Brooks Range or on the Pac Coast I wouldn't hunt with out top quality rain gear and good wool to wear under it.

In the Rockies it tends to be a lot drier. Synthetics work ok, but aren't fire proof. Wool works great, but isn't rain proof. I have only ever had it rain once while hunting elk in my life. And that shower lasted 10 minuites.

I had similar luck in Germany in the Alps. Rained for a few minuites and then it was over.

04-06-2012, 08:27 AM
Core4Element is another great option. They make some great stuff comparible to the others mentioned at a much lower price if you get them on Camofire.

+1 for the Core4 merino wool gear. The base layers are some of the most comfortable I've worn. Plus, my wife thinks I look pretty good in my Core4 undies.

I might have lied about the last part..

Duk Dog
04-06-2012, 11:19 AM
Just got this magazine issue, and this will make for a good read. Funny enough my new Kuiu jacket arrived 2 days prior to my magazine arriving.

Has anyone else seen or tried the Kryptek gear yet?